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Re: Lucas (GM HEI) ignition questions

To: "spitfires@autox.team.net" <spitfires@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Lucas (GM HEI) ignition questions
From: "alemen@pop.ftconnect.com" <alemen@pop.ftconnect.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:25:34 -0500
Nolan capacitor of the coil was usually there for radio interference 
suppression. I remember having to fit them to cars when I fitted a radio many 
years ago. Mind you it may not be needed for electric ignition sinsce there are 
no points.

But saying that, I have one on my 76 which has always had some form of 
electronic ignition (latest is the Pertronics Ignitor, previously Allison and I 
assume Lucas originally). Cap on mine is a blue cylinder with one terminal 
being a plate bolted under the coil mounting. Value I believe is 1 micro Farad.

If the round thingy is on the +ve side of the coil you could check the voltage 
at either side. Sounds like the ballast resistor, but a 1980 model had them as 
part of the wiring harness.

Alan


Original Message:
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From: Nolan Penney npenney@mde.state.md.us
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 09:58:22 -0500
Subject: Lucas (GM HEI) ignition questions



I'm quite thrilled to discover yes indeed, my 1980 Spitifres Lucas ignition box 
does contain a GM HEI ignition module.  That's terrific because those modules 
work real well, and are cheap.  

Now the questions.

I have a capaciter on one leg to the coil (don't remember which), and a round 
thingie on the other, that might be a resistor actually, though it looks like a 
caciter.  All the wiring diagrams I've seen of GM HEI systems have no do-dads 
wired into them.  Why on earth would Lucas have them wired in?  I can 
understand a resistor if the coil is a step down type, and indeed if that round 
thingie is actually a resistor.  But what about the capaciter?  I don't have 
points, so I don't see why I need a capaciter.  Did Lucas simply make this more 
complex then it needs to be?  Since I've got a spare MSD coil, I'll probably 
just drop the do-dads out of the circuit completely when I re-do it.

I find it interesting also how poorly assembled the Lucas unit is.  No good 
thermal conduction (I've got a nice clean one to examine also), but lots of 
water entry.  That's one way to take a great system and make sure it performs 
poorly, in proper Lucas tradition.  With a little work, and a better coil, the 
late Lucas/HEI system should be the cats meow when it comes to performance.



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