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Re: [Spits] Tail and dash light Gremlins

To: "'Paul Meyer'" <paulfmeyer@msn.com>, <spitfires@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spits] Tail and dash light Gremlins
From: "Bill Gingerich" <bill@gingerich.us>
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:51:13 -0500
I'll second the fuse idea.  As I recall the tail lights and dash lights are
on the same fuse.  It's the middle one.

Bill G
OKC, OK
'74 Spit, etc.

-----Original Message-----
From: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net
[mailto:spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Meyer
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 11:12 AM
To: spitfires@autox.team.net
Subject: [Spits] Tail and dash light Gremlins

Guys,

When I first got my '78 Spitfire in 2000, I had intermittent electrical 
problems, most of which cleared up when I replaced the old frame ground 
strap.  I later upgraded to a GM alternator which improved most of the 
remaining, occasional problems.

I have had one issue, though, that got worse.  Years ago, the dash and tail 
lights would go out simultaneously.  The next day, they'd work.  This 
happened 6 or 7 times in the first two years of ownership.  So, I dismantled

all the lights, cleaned the contact surfaces, applied dielectric grease and 
re-assembled.  It appeared to solve the problem for a while.  Then it 
returned.  Recently I can't get the dash or tail-lights to work at all.  
Oddly, my left turn signal works in the rear, but not the right.

I'd really like some feedback on this.  Has anyone had the same problem?

I've pored over the wiring diagrams in the Haynes manual, and a really great

one that has the wiring in color that I found on-line.

It appears that all the affected lights share one common red wire that 
travels from the body harness under the dash to the rear of the car.  This 
doesn't explain the dash lights, though.  I jumpered the red wire at the 
harness plug to the rear of the car, and it didn't improve.  I unwrapped the

tape over most of the harness wiring, but couldn't find any obvious exposed 
copper or damaged insulation.  I'm stumped.

There is a black wire, the ground, that runs from the tail lamp housings 
toward the front of the car, but doesn't seem to have a pin in the body 
harness connector.  I tried tracing it, and I think it terminates at a nut 
on the firewall brace near the battery - several black wires join there and 
are linked by a cable on the same nut to the black Battery terminal.

At the tail, some wires have power - specifically, the fuel guage sender.  I

was not able to get the light to come on at any of the lamp positions 
affected.

I gently pulled the fuse box out to look over the harness connections.  They

all appear ok, but the middle fuse is connected to only one green wire with 
a red stripe.  Seems odd.

In desperation, I ordered a new body harness, 6 new lamp sockets, and new 
bulbs.  I also ordered a new dimmer for the dash lights, as it's part of the

same red-wire circuit.  I hate taking the shotgun approach, but I'm out of 
ideas and will need an inspection sticker next month.
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