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Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Racer guys Engine help
From: Lester <oldsaabguy@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 11:30:22 -0500
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Very underwhelmed WST, VERY!

Just tried again and I'll list stuff so new eyes can see what I'm missing.

1275 bored to 1380 cc

FO  1-3-4-2

#1 cyl closest to radiator

Set engine to TDC.  This was done by removing valve cover  and rotating engine
until both rocker arms were NOT moving and had some slight play.

This lines up with pointer that has been installed and white outlined mark on
balancer.  Seen from passengers side looking at balancer.  There are 3 marks
father along clockwise on balancer.

Install 123 distributor per manufacturers directions.  Verify that distributor
rotor is pointing at # 1 spark plug lead.  Turn distributor until I get some
degree of running.  Get spitting back through carb.

I have not tried to rev it up to see if it will run better, I need a second
person here for that and it doesn't happen very often.

Get tired and give up with temps in Mid- 90s

Send out another email.

At this point I am considering installing my personally built cheater motor (
Early 1098 crank and 1098 pistons in 948 block with an Aussie spec (TM) cam).


On Jul 6, 2014, at 5:27 PM, Wm Severin Thompson wrote:

> Lester, I've been in the weeds in this one, but if I recall, you were
underwhelmed by the performance of a semi-race motor? My first thought was
improper cam timing during assembly.
> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Jul 5, 2014, at 11:07 PM, Lester <oldsaabguy@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Ron, I'll put in one of these other needles and see what happens, wires
>> good and timing light shows good on each one.
>> Jim, that was the first thing I did, showed 205 on cylinders 1, 2, and 3
>> only 185 on 4.  That was the FIRST thing that I did..For an engine with
>> than 20 miles on it that difference bothers me and did from the start.
>> said, it's spitting out the front carb..
>> Lester
>>> On Jul 5, 2014, at 10:44 PM, Lester oldsaabguy@comcast.net [bugeye]
>>> Ok, latest bit of info..
>>> Installed working non-electronic distributor.  Only change is that the
>> from the backfire is a little weaker.
>>> Removed the airfilter and housing, the front carb is spitting out
>> mix every rotation, only getting backfire every third or fourth time.
>> like one of my wildly ported two strokes.
>>> Verified fuel pump is moving fuel.
>>> Lifting up on dashpot causes backfire to be a little less.
>>> Next course of action is to blow through the jet from the needle side to
>> bowl to verify that all is clear....
>>> ..unless there are other options.
>>> BTW  I pulled needles from another carb set and found some loose jets in
>> bag by the distributor...  no two of them are the same.  I may still
>> what appears to be a richer one if nothing else works.
>>> Lester
>>> .. and what are the symptoms of a cam that has been installed
>>> No, I haven't done the vacuum testing yet as the car won't idle worth a
>> damn.
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