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Re: [Spridgets] Throttle cable clean & lube suggestions?

To: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Throttle cable clean & lube suggestions?
From: Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 06:22:56 -0400
Cc: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Michael,
The Facet company rep was not helpful regarding "what's the difference
either". He just said to test it add power LOL.
I'll most likely get the same one unless your model has the same difference
in holes to bolt up.
Thanks,
Lin

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
wrote:

> I don't know the difference in the pumps.  The pump tou have is probably a
> good version.  All I know is all you have to spend is 40 bucks on a pump
> theat is reliable and delivers just the right fuel pressure for your car.
> Installed one on my car back in 09 and has been working fine ever since.
> If you have had to replace yours, try the cheaper pump.  Might be the
> "right" one.
> Mike MacLean
>
>
> On Monday, June 13, 2016 8:39 AM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <
> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> OK Hal I'll swap my new battery from my truck and see if that helps just
> prior to buying  anew battery but I'll get some readings today.
> As for the light going on I meant I used and inline tester looks like the
> linked image below. I unplugged the facet pump power from the fuse box on
> my Sprite to one end and the other end touched the positive terminal of the
> battery. The light went on which I thought indicates current is traveling
> through the pump to ground on the pump. So that must mean I have no short
> circuit on the pump right? Or am I totally wrong.
>
> http://images.oreillyauto.com/parts/img/large/cti/85599-007.jpg
>
> Lin
>
> PS I've made loads of stupid mistakes before and some 2 times around.
> Hopefully I'll figure this out with the help of the Spridget list before I
> start shelling out lots of money on new wiring harness and fuse box because
> I need to know and see what is failing along with understanding how it all
> works. Any long videos on how electricity works on our old cars send me the
> link.
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 7:39 AM, Hal Faulkner via Spridgets <
> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Lin,
> Not sure what you mean by,"if the light goes on...."
> Electrical problems can be very frustrating, voltages that seem good may
> drop under load as resistance from bad connections causes Ohm's Law to come
> into play in a big way.
> Sometimes the solution doesn't seem obvious at all: I once replaced a
> starter twice,before I took my mechanic's advice and replaced the battery
> cables!  Took me quite a while to live that down.
> Earlier you said the battery was at 12 Volts, this seems a bit low as a
> fully charged battery should be closer to 14 Volts.
> I would still expect the fuel pump to work, but if you have a fresh
> battery that you can swap in temporarily it might prove informative.
> Hal
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 2:08 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hal,
> I've got a multimeter, OK will do. I did get the continuity tester light
> to light and now thinking how stupid I should have tried to pull the
> starter as that's how I would know if the starter works. I will clean all
> connectors and test with multimeter and use heavy gauge wire now can I go
> directly to the battery then pull the starter to test the starter? I will
> get a new battery if needed.
> Lin
>
> PS if the light goes on via pump power doesn't it mean the pump is in
> working condition?
>
> On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 11:17 PM, Hal Faulkner via Spridgets <
> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Lin, Do you have a multi meter?  Since you are getting multiple symptoms I
> would begin by checking ALL ground connections. Do you have electrical
> power to the pump?  (measure between the hot lead and ground with the
> ignition on, but not trying to start the car.)  If so, check between the
> return line from the pump and ground.  Look carefully at the wiring harness
> for places where the smoke might have escaped, does the tape covering the
> harness look like it might have gotten hot and melted anywhere?  Do you
> have a wiring diagram?   Make as big a copy as you can and trace the wires
> leading to the fuel pump and anything else that is not working properly.
> Inspect these wires thoroughly for signs of damage.
> Have a beer and relax, come back to it tomorrow.
> You can do it.
> Hal
>
> On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <
> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> The list serve is super slow many messages not getting through the cable
> works but new pump not getting power. I broke down a mile away. Can I run
> the line directly to the battery to test if it's shot? I'm thinking if the
> fuse to the pump is still good it should work. One fuse blew at the box and
> I replaced it. I now have headlights but still no pump.
>
> Lin
>
> On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 4:37 PM, CosmicMag1380 <cosmicmag1380@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Depending on the cable, it may have a metal collar on either end.
> Generally, the carb side will wear into the collar and cause sticking
> issues. Inspect it if it has the collar at the end. Look closely for a
> cable sized wear spot on the flat where the cable comes through. Check for
> wear on the cable too! If a wire wears through it can bend and cause
> sticking.
>
> On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <
> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Hi List,
> Giving some well needed love to little Pinky today. Any suggestions for
> the best cleaning and lubricant for my throttle cable? It doesn't snap back
> freely and I suspect dirt and grime.
> Lin
>
> Spammers go home!
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Michael,<div>The Facet company rep was not helpful regardi=
ng &quot;what&#39;s the difference either&quot;. He just said to test it ad=
d power LOL.<div>I&#39;ll most likely get the same one unless your model ha=
s the same difference in holes to bolt up.</div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Lin<=
/div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Michael MacLean <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net"; target=3D"_blank">rrengineer.mike@at=
t.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div sty=
le=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:times new roman,new york=
,times,serif;font-size:16px"><div dir=3D"ltr">I don&#39;t know the differen=
ce in the pumps.=C2=A0 The pump tou have is probably a good version.=C2=A0 =
All I know is all you have to spend is 40 bucks on a pump theat is reliable=
 and delivers just the right fuel pressure for your car.=C2=A0 Installed on=
e on my car back in 09 and has been working fine ever since.=C2=A0 If you h=
ave had to replace yours, try the cheaper pump.=C2=A0 Might be the &quot;ri=
ght&quot; one.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Mike MacLean<br></div><div><span></spa=
n></div> <div><br><br></div><div style=3D"display:block"> <div style=3D"fon=
t-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px"> <div style=
=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,=
sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div><div class=3D"h5"> <div dir=3D"ltr"><font f=
ace=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> On Monday, June 13, 2016 8:39 AM, Linda Grunthane=
r via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_=
blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></font></div> </div></div=
><blockquote style=3D"border-left:2px solid rgb(16,16,255);margin-left:5px;=
margin-top:5px;padding-left:5px"> <br><br> <div><div><div class=3D"h5"><div=
><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>OK Hal I&#39;ll swap my new battery from my tru=
ck and see if that helps just prior to buying=C2=A0 anew battery but I&#39;=
ll get some readings today.</div><div>As for the light going on I meant I u=
sed and inline tester looks like the linked image below. I unplugged the fa=
cet pump power from the fuse box on my Sprite to one end and the other end =
touched the positive terminal of the battery. The light went on which I tho=
ught indicates current is traveling through the pump to ground on the pump.=
 So that must mean I have no short circuit on the pump right? Or am I total=
ly wrong. </div><div>=C2=A0</div><div><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" hr=
ef=3D"http://images.oreillyauto.com/parts/img/large/cti/85599-007.jpg"; targ=
et=3D"_blank">http://images.oreillyauto.com/parts/img/large/cti/85599-007.j=
pg</a></div><div>=C2=A0</div><div>Lin</div><div>=C2=A0</div><div>PS I&#39;v=
e made loads of stupid mistakes before and some 2 times around. Hopefully I=
&#39;ll figure this out with the help of the Spridget list before I start s=
helling out lots of money on new wiring harness and fuse box because I need=
 to know and see what is failing along with understanding how it all works.=
 Any long videos on how electricity works on our old cars send me the link.=
</div><div>=C2=A0</div></div><div><br clear=3D"none"><div>On Mon, Jun 13, 2=
016 at 7:39 AM, Hal Faulkner via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"=
nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D=
"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><=
blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div>Lin,<br clear=3D"non=
e"></div>Not sure what you mean by,&quot;if the light goes on....&quot;<br =
clear=3D"none"></div>Electrical problems can be very frustrating, voltages =
that seem good may drop under load as resistance from bad connections cause=
s Ohm&#39;s Law to come into play in a big way.=C2=A0 <br clear=3D"none"></=
div>Sometimes the solution doesn&#39;t seem obvious at all: I once replaced=
 a starter twice,before I took my mechanic&#39;s advice and replaced the ba=
ttery cables!=C2=A0 Took me quite a while to live that down. <br clear=3D"n=
one"></div>Earlier you said the battery was at 12 Volts, this seems a bit l=
ow as a fully charged battery should be closer to 14 Volts.<br clear=3D"non=
e"></div>I would still expect the fuel pump to work, but if you have a fres=
h battery that you can swap in temporarily it might prove informative.<span=
><font color=3D"#888888"><br clear=3D"none"></font></span></div><span><font=
 color=3D"#888888">Hal<br clear=3D"none"></font></span></div><div><div><div=
><br clear=3D"none"><div>On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 2:08 AM, Linda Grunthaner =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:gru=
nthaner@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">grunthaner@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wr=
ote:<br clear=3D"none"><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;paddin=
g-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-=
left-style:solid"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hal,<div>I&#39;ve got a multimeter, OK w=
ill do. I did get the continuity tester light to light and now thinking how=
 stupid I should have tried to pull the starter as that&#39;s how I would k=
now if the starter works. I will clean all connectors and test with multime=
ter and use heavy gauge wire now can I go directly to the battery then pull=
 the starter to test the starter? I will get a new battery if needed.</div>=
<div>Lin</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>PS if the light goes on vi=
a pump power doesn&#39;t it mean the pump is in working condition?</div></d=
iv><div><br clear=3D"none"><div><div><div>On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 11:17 PM,=
 Hal Faulkner via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=
=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">spridg=
ets@autox.team.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div></div><blo=
ckquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-colo=
r:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div><div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Lin, Do you have a multi meter?=C2=A0 Sinc=
e you are getting multiple symptoms I would begin by checking ALL ground co=
nnections. Do you have electrical power to the pump?=C2=A0 (measure between=
 the hot lead and ground with the ignition on, but not trying to start the =
car.)=C2=A0 If so, check between the return line from the pump and ground.=
=C2=A0 Look carefully at the wiring harness for places where the smoke migh=
t have escaped, does the tape covering the harness look like it might have =
gotten hot and melted anywhere?=C2=A0 Do you have a wiring diagram?=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 Make as big a copy as you can and trace the wires leading to the fue=
l pump and anything else that is not working properly.=C2=A0 Inspect these =
wires thoroughly for signs of damage. <br clear=3D"none"></div>Have a beer =
and relax, come back to it tomorrow.<br clear=3D"none"></div>You can do it.=
<br clear=3D"none"></div>Hal<br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none=
"><div><div><div>On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spri=
dgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mail=
to:spridgets@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>=
&gt;</span> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div></div><blockquote style=3D"margi=
n:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);bor=
der-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr">The =
list serve is super slow many messages not getting through the cable works =
but new pump not getting power. I broke down a mile away. Can I run the lin=
e directly to the battery to test if it&#39;s shot? I&#39;m thinking if the=
 fuse to the pump is still good it should work. One fuse blew at the box an=
d I replaced it. I now have headlights but still no pump.=C2=A0<div><br cle=
ar=3D"none"></div><div>Lin</div></div><div><div><div><br clear=3D"none"><di=
v>On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 4:37 PM, CosmicMag1380 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a r=
el=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:cosmicmag1380@gmail.com"; targ=
et=3D"_blank">cosmicmag1380@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br clear=3D"non=
e"><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-le=
ft-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">Depending on the cable, it may have a metal collar on either=
 end. Generally, the carb side will wear into the collar and cause sticking=
 issues. Inspect it if it has the collar at the end. Look closely for a cab=
le sized wear spot on the flat where the cable comes through. Check for wea=
r on the cable too! If a wire wears through it can bend and cause sticking.=
<br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"><div><div><div>On Sun, Jun=
 12, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=
;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net=
" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br clear=
=3D"none"></div></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding=
-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-l=
eft-style:solid"><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi List,<div><span style=3D"col=
or:rgb(29,33,41);letter-spacing:-0.23px">Giving some well needed love to li=
ttle Pinky today. Any suggestions for the best cleaning and lubricant for m=
y throttle cable? It doesn&#39;t snap back freely and I suspect dirt and gr=
ime.=C2=A0</span></div><div><font color=3D"#1d2129" face=3D"San Francisco, =
-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, .SFNSText-Regular, sans-serif"><span sty=
le=3D"letter-spacing:-0.23px;font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap">Lin</span=
></font></div><div><font color=3D"#1d2129" face=3D"San Francisco, -apple-sy=
stem, BlinkMacSystemFont, .SFNSText-Regular, sans-serif"><span style=3D"let=
ter-spacing:-0.23px;font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap"><br clear=3D"none"=
></span></font></div><div><font color=3D"#1d2129"><font face=3D"San Francis=
co, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, .SFNSText-Regular, sans-serif"><span=
 style=3D"letter-spacing:-0.23px;font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap">Spamm=
ers</span></font>=C2=A0go home!<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br clear=3D"a=
ll"></font></span></font><span><font color=3D"#888888"></font></span><div><=
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