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Re: [Spridgets] HIF6 Problem

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Subject: Re: [Spridgets] HIF6 Problem
From: Michael MacLean via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2019 20:03:19 +0000 (UTC)
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 I think the lesson is you might have to fix something that you did wrong t=
he first time.=C2=A0 It started right up again this morning.=C2=A0 I almost=
 trust it for drive now.Mike M

    On Tuesday, June 4, 2019, 9:43:01 AM PDT, corvallis--- via Spridgets <s=
pridgets@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
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This is good news, and encouragement for others to stay at it and good thin=
gs should happen.=C2=A0 Bill in Oregon

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From: Spridgets <spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Mac=
Lean via Spridgets
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2019 9:31 AM
To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>; CosmicMag1380 <cosmicmag1380@gmai=
l.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] HIF6 Problem

 =C2=A0

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Removed the HIF6 carb yesterday and took it to Dav=
id Anton at APT.=C2=A0 He's only five miles away and he sold me the carb an=
yway.=C2=A0 Well, David is in England visiting family, so I took the carb h=
ome and decided to take it apart myself again.=C2=A0 I had just rebuilt it =
before this with a new needle and seat and a new bottom seal.=C2=A0 I had a=
lso adjusted the float before putting it back together.=C2=A0=20

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I put it back together again after finding nothing=
 wrong with it.=C2=A0 When I reinstalled it, the car started right up.=C2=
=A0 Don't ask me what is different.=C2=A0 Nothing as far as I can see, but =
I must have done something wrong in the reassembly the first time.=C2=A0 As=
 an aside I did find out the rubber connectors on both ends of the vacuum a=
dvance line from the carb to the vacuum unit on the distributor were toast.=
=C2=A0 They were all dried out and cracked, so there was no advance in the =
timing at the higher RPMs.=C2=A0 Things happen for a reason I guess.

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Yes I had drained the old gas and put fresh gas in=
 the tank before the first rebuild of a couple of weeks ago.=C2=A0 Now I ca=
n proceed with the front end alignment.=C2=A0 (I just reconditioned the sus=
pension, brakes and steering. It's been 20 years since the restoration)=C2=
=A0 Also have to drain and refill the Datsun transmission with Redline MT-9=
0.=C2=A0 An oil change and a valve adjustment are also needed.=C2=A0 Let's =
hope the rear axle seal doesn't leak this time.=C2=A0 Being retired is begi=
nning to feel like work.=C2=A0 I guess I missed British Car week too.=C2=A0=
 Thanks all for the input.=C2=A0 Should Have known it was probably my ham h=
anded mechanical repair.

Mike M.

 =C2=A0

On Tuesday, June 4, 2019, 8:58:20 AM PDT, CosmicMag1380 <cosmicmag1380@gmai=
l.com> wrote:=20

 =C2=A0

 =C2=A0

Mike,

 =C2=A0

Did you drain the old fuel out and put fresh gas in? The ethanol fuels sepa=
rate out and the heavy gunk that settles on the bottom does not burn! Since=
 it is at the bottom of the tank where the pickup is, it may have been suck=
ed through and stalled your engine.=C2=A0

 =C2=A0

Kent

 =C2=A0

On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 4:52 PM rrengineer.mike via Spridgets <spridgets@aut=
ox.team.net> wrote:


 =C2=A0

As some of you know I just rebuilt the entire suspension, steering and brak=
es on my Bugeye.=C2=A0 Because of this the ethanol in the gas gummed up the=
 workings of my single HIF6 carb, so I rebuilt it with a new viton tipped n=
eedle and bottom seal angle cleaned the insides out of the ethanol residue.=
=C2=A0 Yesterday I started the car up and it ran better than ever for about=
 a minute and quit.=C2=A0 It would not start after that.=C2=A0 I checked fo=
r spark,=C2=A0 yes.=C2=A0 I checked for fuel flow to the carb, yes.=C2=A0 I=
t has to be the carb.=C2=A0 I have it off the car now and I am taking it ap=
art.=C2=A0 Any ideas of what I should be looking for?

Mike MacLean

 =C2=A0

 =C2=A0

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Kent
1960 Bugeye
1983 Garage full of spridget parts!
2017 Home built shed full of excess spridget parts!!!
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rs to stay at it and good things should happen.&nbsp; Bill in Oregon</p><p =
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<b>From:</b> Spridgets &lt;spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behal=
f Of </b>Michael MacLean via Spridgets<br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesd=
ay, June 4, 2019 9:31 AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> Spridgets &lt;spridge=
ts@autox.team.net&gt;; CosmicMag1380 &lt;cosmicmag1380@gmail.com&gt;<br cle=
ar=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Spridgets] HIF6 Problem</p></div></div><p =
class=3D"yiv5223232574MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><div><div><p class=3D"yiv522323=
2574MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; R=
emoved the HIF6 carb yesterday and took it to David Anton at APT.&nbsp; He'=
s only five miles away and he sold me the carb anyway.&nbsp; Well, David is=
 in England visiting family, so I took the carb home and decided to take it=
 apart myself again.&nbsp; I had just rebuilt it before this with a new nee=
dle and seat and a new bottom seal.&nbsp; I had also adjusted the float bef=
ore putting it back together.&nbsp; </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv52=
23232574MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p; I put it back together again after finding nothing wrong with it.&nbsp; =
When I reinstalled it, the car started right up.&nbsp; Don't ask me what is=
 different.&nbsp; Nothing as far as I can see, but I must have done somethi=
ng wrong in the reassembly the first time.&nbsp; As an aside I did find out=
 the rubber connectors on both ends of the vacuum advance line from the car=
b to the vacuum unit on the distributor were toast.&nbsp; They were all dri=
ed out and cracked, so there was no advance in the timing at the higher RPM=
s.&nbsp; Things happen for a reason I guess.</span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"yiv5223232574MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp; Yes I had drained the old gas and put fresh gas in the tank bef=
ore the first rebuild of a couple of weeks ago.&nbsp; Now I can proceed wit=
h the front end alignment.&nbsp; (I just reconditioned the suspension, brak=
es and steering. It's been 20 years since the restoration)&nbsp; Also have =
to drain and refill the Datsun transmission with Redline MT-90.&nbsp; An oi=
l change and a valve adjustment are also needed.&nbsp; Let's hope the rear =
axle seal doesn't leak this time.&nbsp; Being retired is beginning to feel =
like work.&nbsp; I guess I missed British Car week too.&nbsp; Thanks all fo=
r the input.&nbsp; Should Have known it was probably my ham handed mechanic=
al repair.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv5223232574MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">Mike M.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv5223=
232574MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div>=
</div><div id=3D"yiv5223232574yahoo_quoted_0130233593"><div><div><p class=
=3D"yiv5223232574MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">On Tuesday, J=
une 4, 2019, 8:58:20 AM PDT, CosmicMag1380 &lt;</span><a rel=3D"nofollow" s=
hape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:cosmicmag1380@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"mailto:cosmicmag1380@gmail.com";><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">c=
osmicmag1380@gmail.com</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">&gt; wro=
te: </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv5223232574MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv52232325=
74MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><div=
><div id=3D"yiv5223232574"><div><p class=3D"yiv5223232574MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Mike,</span></p><div><p class=3D"yiv5223232574Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p =
class=3D"yiv5223232574MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Did you =
drain the old fuel out and put fresh gas in? The ethanol fuels separate out=
 and the heavy gunk that settles on the bottom does not burn! Since it is a=
t the bottom of the tank where the pickup is, it may have been sucked throu=
gh and stalled your engine.&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv52232=
32574MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><=
div><p class=3D"yiv5223232574MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">K=
ent</span></p></div></div><p class=3D"yiv5223232574MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></p><div><div><p class=3D"yiv522323257=
4MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 4:52 P=
M rrengineer.mike via Spridgets &lt;</span><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rec=
t" ymailto=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"ma=
ilto:spridgets@autox.team.net"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">spridgets@=
autox.team.net</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">&gt; wrote:</spa=
n></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0p=
t;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right=
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pan style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yi=
v5223232574MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">As some of you know=
 I just rebuilt the entire suspension, steering and brakes on my Bugeye.&nb=
sp; Because of this the ethanol in the gas gummed up the workings of my sin=
gle HIF6 carb, so I rebuilt it with a new viton tipped needle and bottom se=
al angle cleaned the insides out of the ethanol residue.&nbsp; Yesterday I =
started the car up and it ran better than ever for about a minute and quit.=
&nbsp; It would not start after that.&nbsp; I checked for spark,&nbsp; yes.=
&nbsp; I checked for fuel flow to the carb, yes.&nbsp; It has to be the car=
b.&nbsp; I have it off the car now and I am taking it apart.&nbsp; Any idea=
s of what I should be looking for?</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv5223232574MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10.0pt;">Mike MacLean</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"></spa=
n></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv5223232574MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
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