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Re: [Spridgets] No Castrol DOT 3 available : (

To: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No Castrol DOT 3 available : (
From: Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 17:26:00 -0400
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They only had Prestone Dot 4 so I'll use it till I flush with Lockheed in
the fall or sooner which looks great, I'll guess much higher boiling point.
Thanks for all the info Lin

On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 5:06 PM Michael MacLean via Spridgets <
spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Linda,
>      All brake fluids are synthetic.  The DOT system of numbers all relat=
e
> to the boiling point or temp before the stuff boils.  DOT 3 is good enoug=
h
> for such a light car as a Spridget.  I would suggest Lockheed DOT 4.  It
> was recommended to me recently by a local parts supplier that has been
> selling Brit car parts for 40 years.  The Castrol Brake Fluid is no longe=
r
> made by the same people in England.  It is not the same stuff anymore.  I
> just rebuilt the complete brake system on my Bugeye and replaced all the
> fluid with the Lockheed stuff.  It mixes with DOT3 fine as the base stock
> is the same.
>
> 220-400 DOT4 BRAKE FLUID, lockheed delphi, 500ml | Moss Motors
> <https://mossmotors.com/brake-fluid-500ml?assoc=3D59476>
>
> 220-400 DOT4 BRAKE FLUID, lockheed delphi, 500ml | Moss Motors
>
> 220-400 DOT4 BRAKE FLUID, lockheed delphi, 500ml|BRAKE FLUID, 500ml
> <https://mossmotors.com/brake-fluid-500ml?assoc=3D59476>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, June 23, 2019, 1:54:25 PM PDT, corvallis--- via Spridgets <
> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> My brain was confusing synthetic with the word silicone.
>
> From the web I get =E2=80=9CDOT 5 brake fluid is silicone based. DOT 3 (s=
tandard)
> and DOT 4 (heavy-duty) are glycol-based.=E2=80=9D
>
>
> http://collision.alldata.com/online2help/shopOps/Inspection_Forms,_System=
_Checklists_and_Customer_Questions/Answers_to_Common_Customer_Questions/Bra=
kes/can_dot_5_brake_fluid_be_used_instead_of_dot_3_or_41.htm
>
> You are good to go with DOT 4 in with your DOT 3.  Bill in Oregon
>
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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>
> *From:* Spridgets <spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *derf
> via Spridgets
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 23, 2019 1:11 PM
> *To:* Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Spridget list <Spridgets@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Spridgets] No Castrol DOT 3 available : (
>
>
>
> DOT 4 can be used in place of and can mix with DOT 3.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 3:05 PM Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <
> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Spridgiteers,
>
> I want to bleed my brakes but the stores or Amazon nolonger carries
> Castrol GT LMA DOT3 brake fluid. I thought I had a few bottles left but I
> was wrong and have her on stands patiently waiting for her fluid. Yesterd=
ay
> I took her out for the first time and needed a little more fluid before
> heading out. I only drove 8 blocks and while sitting at a light the peddl=
e
> went to the floor. I quickly pumped the brake and it was fine to get home=
.
> I put her on stands in the driveway getting ready to bleed as I suspected
> an air bubble but no store carries Castrol GT LMA Dot 3 any more.
> Suggestions please. One of the members on a Facebook Spridget group said =
to
> flush and add Castrol DOT4 which is synthetic, he said I wouldn't need to
> replace the wheel cylinders or the master cylinder I I did that but I am =
by
> myself and use a stick to hold the peddle using a tube into fluid to
> prevent air, I have a one handed blender but I couldn't get it to work
> properly. Maybe I should look at a youtube.
>
>
>
> What would Frank say?
>
> Linda
>
> 62 California Sprite "Pinky"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">They only had Prestone Dot 4 so I&#39;ll =
use it till I flush with Lockheed in the fall or sooner which looks great, =
I&#39;ll guess much higher boiling point.<div>Thanks for all the info Lin</=
div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_at=
tr">On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 5:06 PM Michael MacLean via Spridgets &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net";>spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(2=
04,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div class=3D"gmail-m_584275639739184413=
3ydpf76152a0yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:&quot;times new roman&qu=
ot;,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif;font-size:16px"><div></div>
        <div>Linda,</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 All brake fluids are=
 synthetic.=C2=A0 The DOT system of numbers all relate to the boiling point=
 or temp before the stuff boils.=C2=A0 DOT 3 is good enough for such a ligh=
t car as a Spridget.=C2=A0 I would suggest Lockheed DOT 4.=C2=A0 It was rec=
ommended to me recently by a local parts supplier that has been selling Bri=
t car parts for 40 years.=C2=A0 The Castrol Brake Fluid is no longer made b=
y the same people in England.=C2=A0 It is not the same stuff anymore.=C2=A0=
 I just rebuilt the complete brake system on my Bugeye and replaced all the=
 fluid with the Lockheed stuff.=C2=A0 It mixes with DOT3 fine as the base s=
tock is the same.=C2=A0 <br></div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://mo=
ssmotors.com/brake-fluid-500ml?assoc=3D59476" rel=3D"nofollow" class=3D"gma=
il-m_5842756397391844133enhancr_card_2290152888" target=3D"_blank">220-400 =
DOT4 BRAKE FLUID, lockheed delphi, 500ml  | Moss Motors</a></div><div><br><=
/div><div id=3D"gmail-m_5842756397391844133ydp620f1e06enhancr_card_22901528=
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                    On Sunday, June 23, 2019, 1:54:25 PM PDT, corvallis--- =
via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_bl=
ank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"gmail-m_5842756397391844133yiv2946018927"><=
div><div class=3D"gmail-m_5842756397391844133yiv2946018927WordSection1"><p =
class=3D"gmail-m_5842756397391844133yiv2946018927MsoNormal">My brain was co=
nfusing synthetic with the word silicone. </p><p class=3D"gmail-m_584275639=
7391844133yiv2946018927MsoNormal">From the web I get =E2=80=9C<span style=
=3D"font-size:10pt">DOT 5 brake fluid is silicone based. DOT 3 (standard) a=
nd DOT 4 (heavy-duty) are glycol-based.=E2=80=9D</span></p><p class=3D"gmai=
l-m_5842756397391844133yiv2946018927MsoNormal"><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D=
"rect" href=3D"http://collision.alldata.com/online2help/shopOps/Inspection_=
Forms,_System_Checklists_and_Customer_Questions/Answers_to_Common_Customer_=
Questions/Brakes/can_dot_5_brake_fluid_be_used_instead_of_dot_3_or_41.htm" =
target=3D"_blank">http://collision.alldata.com/online2help/shopOps/Inspecti=
on_Forms,_System_Checklists_and_Customer_Questions/Answers_to_Common_Custom=
er_Questions/Brakes/can_dot_5_brake_fluid_be_used_instead_of_dot_3_or_41.ht=
m</a></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_5842756397391844133yiv2946018927MsoNormal">You=
 are good to go with DOT 4 in with your DOT 3.=C2=A0 Bill in Oregon</p><p c=
lass=3D"gmail-m_5842756397391844133yiv2946018927MsoNormal">=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D</p><div class=
=3D"gmail-m_5842756397391844133yiv2946018927yqt7156646809" id=3D"gmail-m_58=
42756397391844133yiv2946018927yqt37037"><p class=3D"gmail-m_584275639739184=
4133yiv2946018927MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sp=
ridgets-bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">spridgets-bounces@autox.t=
eam.net</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>derf via Spridgets<br clear=3D"none"><b=
>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 23, 2019 1:11 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> Linda=
 Grunthaner &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:grunthaner@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">g=
runthaner@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc:</b> Spridget list &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:Spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">Spridgets@aut=
ox.team.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Spridgets] No Ca=
strol DOT 3 available : (</p><p class=3D"gmail-m_5842756397391844133yiv2946=
018927MsoNormal"> =C2=A0</p><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_5842756397391844133yiv=
2946018927MsoNormal">DOT 4 can be used in place of and can mix with DOT 3.=
=C2=A0</p><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_5842756397391844133yiv2946018927MsoNorma=
l"> =C2=A0</p></div></div><p class=3D"gmail-m_5842756397391844133yiv2946018=
927MsoNormal"> =C2=A0</p><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_5842756397391844133y=
iv2946018927MsoNormal">On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 3:05 PM Linda Grunthaner via=
 Spridgets &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:spridgets@=
autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</=
p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-style:none none none solid;border-left-=
width:1pt;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin=
-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_5842756397391844133y=
iv2946018927MsoNormal">Hi Spridgiteers,</p><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_5842756=
397391844133yiv2946018927MsoNormal">I want to bleed my brakes but the store=
s or Amazon nolonger carries Castrol GT LMA DOT3 brake fluid. I thought I h=
ad a few bottles left but I was wrong and have her on stands patiently wait=
ing for her fluid. Yesterday I took her out for the first time and needed a=
 little more fluid before heading out. I only drove 8 blocks and while sitt=
ing at a light the peddle went to the floor. I quickly pumped the brake and=
 it was fine to get home. I put her on stands in the driveway getting ready=
 to bleed as I suspected an air bubble but no store carries Castrol GT LMA =
Dot 3 any more. Suggestions please. One of the members on a Facebook Spridg=
et group said to flush and add Castrol DOT4 which is synthetic, he said I w=
ouldn&#39;t need to replace the wheel cylinders or the master cylinder I I =
did that but I am by myself and use a stick to hold the peddle using a tube=
 into fluid to prevent air, I have a one handed blender but I couldn&#39;t =
get it to work properly. Maybe I should look at a youtube.</p></div><div><p=
 class=3D"gmail-m_5842756397391844133yiv2946018927MsoNormal"> =C2=A0</p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_5842756397391844133yiv2946018927MsoNormal">What=
 would Frank say?</p></div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_5842756397391844133yiv2=
946018927MsoNormal">Linda</p></div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_584275639739184=
4133yiv2946018927MsoNormal">62 California Sprite &quot;Pinky&quot;</p></div=
><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_5842756397391844133yiv2946018927MsoNormal"> =C2=
=A0</p></div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_5842756397391844133yiv2946018927MsoNo=
rmal"> =C2=A0</p></div><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_5842756397391844133yiv=
2946018927MsoNormal"> =C2=A0</p></div><p class=3D"gmail-m_58427563973918441=
33yiv2946018927MsoNormal">-- </p><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_584275639739=
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