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Re: Disc brakes--non Triumph

To: Bob and Nancy <wises@execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Disc brakes--non Triumph
From: George Richardson <gprtech@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 22:55:09 -0400
Cc: triumphs@Autox.Team.Net, triumphs@Autox.Team.Net
Organization: Merlin Group Inc.
References: <v01530501b020fa5ac644@[207.250.71.8]>
Bob and Nancy wrote:
> 
> Yo,
> 
>         Although not strictly a Triumph question, I thought maybe you
> mechanical wizards could help (remember, the TR3 was the first real
> production car with front discs brakes).
>         My wife has a 1991 Toyota Camry that eats front disc rotors.  The
> first set was replaced at 25,000 miles and the second at 60,000 miles.
> Both sets had warped and were turned 3 or 4 times before they got too thin
> to turn again.  The guy at the Midas shop replaced the last set for free
> but refused to warranty the new set because he felt that the fault was in
> the car, and not in his rotors.
> 
>         So what could be causing this?
> 
> 1.  Driver riding the brakes or braking heavily.  This is not the case.  My
> wife just drives like every other normal driver.  Besides, we bought the
> car used and the previous owner also went through a set of rotors in less
> than 2 years.
> 
> 2.  Lug nots unevenly torqued.  Not likely.  Midas retorqued the lugs
> everytime they turned the rotors and the problem kept coming back.
> 
> 3.  Brakes dragging due to a bad line.  Probably not.  Both sides warp
> equally and the car doesn't pull to one side upon braking.
> 
> 4.  Brakes dragging due to bad master cylinder.  Don't think so (although
> maybe).  Brake pads do not show excessive wear.  Car rolls well and it
> doesn't feel as though the brakes are dragging.
> 
> 5.  Defective rotors.  Well, if so, why is the car on it's third set of
> rotors (the first one being the manufacturer's)?
> 
> 6.  Excessive heat buildup.  Yeah, probably, but what is the source?  If
> it's not excessive or hard braking, or dragging due to bad hydraulics then
> what would cause the rotors to heat up?  Do Camrys have poor ventilation on
> their brake rotors?   If so, shouldn't all Camrys have the same problem?
> 
> So, as you can see, I don't have any answers.  We have a new set of rotors
> in the car now and I figure we have 4 or 5 months before they'll have to be
> turned.  And I don't think the local Midas guy is going to be too friendly
> to me anymore (we had a difference of opinion as to what his 12 month
> warranty really meant).
> 
> Wadda ya think?
> 
> Bob Wise
> 
> Appleton, WI

My wife drives an 86 Caddy DeVille. Every time I have the rotors cut,
not one week goes by before they're out of true again. I can't figure
out how she does it.

George Richardson
'57 TR3, TS15559L
(getting ready to paint)

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