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Re: Engine and gearbox numbers

To: "GuyotLeonF" <GuyotLeonF@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Engine and gearbox numbers
From: "Jason" <chinn@easynet.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 20:45:33 -0000charset="us-ascii"
Cc: <triumphs@Autox.Team.Net>
Thanks Leon, I think! Some more questions and a few answers so I think it's
back to the bits and see if I can uncover any more of these numbers. If it
makes any difference I recall that the 2.5 engine has cut outs for the head
gasket, I've never come across those on a 2 litre engine.

By the way, is it the done thing to send this to you AND
triumphs@autox.team.net?

I'll let you know how I get on. I bought Triumph World Dec/Jan issue, no
sign of your car but quite a nice magazine anyway, I've never seen it before
and was pleasantly surprised. Thanks for the recommendation.



Jason
"Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice Doggie!" till you can find a rock. "

-----Original Message-----
From: GuyotLeonF <GuyotLeonF@aol.com>
To: chinn@easynet.co.uk <chinn@easynet.co.uk>; triumphs@autox.team.net
<triumphs@autox.team.net>
Date: 14 December 1997 23:25
Subject: Re: Engine and gearbox numbers


>In a message dated 13/12/97  14:36:30, you write:
>
><< Leon,
> You said you may be able to help me identify what I've got well I've had a
> rummage and here's what I've found
> I've got two engines and gearboxes
> Engines are
> HC54565HE is I think an original Vitesse engine from a '69 car I used to
> own, it's been in and out of a few cars so I could be wrong!
>
>Yes indeed,HC denotes a Vitesse 2 Litre Mk.2 engine.
>These are the 'best' engines to rebuild.
>OK they have 500cc less than the 2498cc TR6 engine,but what they lose in
>capacity and torque,they more than make up for in eagerness to rev and in
>sporty driveability,c/w the long stroke 'sloggers',(my humble apologies to
TR6
>owners everywhere,as the TR6 is such a fine car),it's just that we have to
>save as many of these HC engines as possible...(all Triumph engines in
>fact),coz they are not making any more of them,and one day they'll all be
>gone!
>
> MG 5646 HE (that's all I can read) is what came with KRN555H the 'basket
> case' which is registered as  2500cc on the VRD
>
>MG huh? now there's an unfortunate combination of letters to be found on a
>Triumph!
>To the best of my knowledge it is a high compression engine originating
from
>either a 2500TC or 2.5PI Triumph 'Innsbruck' Saloon.
>nb.VRD means Vehicle Registration Document or 'V5' which is what the
>American's
>refer to as a 'pink slip'
>KRN 555H was,by the way originally registered in Preston,Lancashire between
>1st August 1969 and 31st July 1970.
>
> Gearboxes are
> KF11795 with D type overdrive and wired gearlever- this was sold to me as
a
> GT6 box, suitable for the Vitesse
>
>KF huh,now there's curious,if that is really KF and not KE with the bottom
of
>the E obscured or worn away,then that is from an American market
GT6-3,whereas
>KE would be a British market GT6-3.
>The D-type is OK,but I prefer the J-type personally.,talk with John Kipping
>for advice.
>He'll do a part exchange if you decide that's the way to go.
>
>The other box, the one that came with KRN, looks very similar to the one in
> your in your car (much dirtier than in your picture!)
>
>Well,that's not surprising as that box in my Vitesse originated from a
>2500TC,well,the casing and Overdrive did,but not the remote,or the input
shaft
>or the gears or gearlever,or clutch slave cylinder or the slave cylinder
>mounting bracket which originated from Dolomite Sprint,TR6 and GT6 in
various
>mixtures!
>
>I can't find stamped  number in the 'usual' type places but there is one
>stamped number of MB15465 together with various casting numbers like 306812
>WYF E336/R with the number  3 underneath and 88312305. This box is in a bit
of
>a state and has lost it's oil I think, I couldn't turn it and that's a bad
>sign in my book!
> If there's anyplace I should look again then let me know.
> Thanks
>
>Umm,I can't remember where all the numbers are to be found on those
boxes,but
>the only that I can relate to above is MB15465 which indicates that it
>originated from a Triumph 2000 Mk.1 Saloon,and it is possible that the
number
>306812 ,might just be a Triumph part number,but I don't have a Mk.1 Saloon
>parts manual here,sorry.
>The fact that it doesn't turn may not mean it is wrecked,but perhaps it
just
>rquires a rebuild?
>Again,talk to John Kipping for advice about whether it is worth it or not.
>
>Good Luck
>And let us know how you get on
>Leon.
>


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