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Subject: Brakes/Pedal
From: "Hassan, Erkan" <hassan@pharmacy.ab.umd.edu>
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 98 11:58:10 -0400
Organization: UMAB - School of Pharmacy
I greatly appreciated the wise advice from the list regarding the 
calipers and pistons.

As a recap, when I brought my TR3B home, the PO said it had just received 
a new master cylinder.  The squishy brakes, I therefore attributed to 
lack of bleeding (since it was replaced the day I picked the car up).  I 
bleed the brakes (note: all 4 bleed nipples had fluid coming out of them 
when loosened and pumped) and the pedal improved but still needed 
pumping.  I then heard terrible metal to metal grinding on the front 
passenger side.  The ouside pad had completely worn down to metal onto 
the rotor.  The remaining 3 pads on the front were all fine.

I ordered a caliper rebuild kit, new pads, 2 new rotors and 4 new 
pistons.  Although all of the pistons were rusted, only the one with the 
worn pad was stuck.  Compressed air courtesy of the local Exxon got all 4 
pistons out.  

Since I could not get the whire wheel hubs and rotors off since the wheel 
turned freely and the nuts had no intention of budging, I was to let the 
shop take care of replacing the rotors.  So I put new seals, bellows and 
pistons into each caliper.  Put everything back together again, bleed the 
brakes again and whent for a spin (note:with the old rotors).  The break 
pedal was initially strong then turned into mashed potates. Back to Exxon 
to blow out the piston.  Turns out I had inadvertantly put a nick in the 
seal on the front passenger side and all the brake fluid drained out all 
over the tire and road.  Fluid reservoir bone dry.

Replaced the seal, bellow and piston, reattached caliper and bled the 
system AGAIN.

Still have not replaced rotors.

On the test drive the pedal was firm.  However, after driving a while 
without using the brakes, I would then need the brakes, when brakes were 
applied, the pedal is mushy again.  With pumping it returns and if the 
pedal is pushed soon after it is OK.  But if left alone for a while 
during driving it gets mushy.  Fluid reservoir is full.

With somewhat hard braking, that familiar smell of burned pad resonates 
in the cockpit.

I have not looked at the rear brakes yet.

What is going on here??
Where should I start?
Are the front piston(s) stuck again?  
Are there no rear brakes?
Does it need to be rebleed again (I'm really getting tired of doing 
this)? All bleeding has been done the old fashion way without an EZ bleed 
or Mitivac.
How have others replaced front rotors without the benefit of impact 
wrenches?
Assuming the rear brake drums have melded into one solid mass, how does 
one check the back?

Any and all thoughts are greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Erkan Hassan
62 TR3B


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