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To: greg <greg@gelhar.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] Duh
From: Rye Livingston <ryel@mac.com>
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The Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club in the San Jose/San Francisco Bay Ar=
ea, we have this kind of help too. =C2=A0In the last year I can think of t=
wo members who were taking out or putting in engines and organized a work =
day at their house and had all kinds of help from fellow club members. =C2=
=A0It's great to have so much knowledgeable help, and makes a fun day out =
of it too.=0A=0ARye=0A=0A=0A=0ARye=0APH: 530-FIND-RYE=0A=0AOn Aug 02, 2016=
, at 04:27 PM, greg <greg@gelhar.com> wrote:=0A=0ARandall makes some good =
points. My local Triumph club has several experienced members who always c=
ome to the aid of owners needing repairs on their cars.=0AWhen I wanted to=
 install my replacement transmission, I chose a date and seven members cam=
e to make the job=C2=A0 easy. Am I lucky, or do other clubs share experien=
ces like this?=0A=0AGreg G.=0AOsseo, MN=0A=0A=0A=0ASENT FROM ALCATEL ONETO=
UCH TABLET=0A=0AOn Jul 31, 2016 10:27 PM, Randall <tr3driver@ca.rr.com> wr=
ote:=0A=0A> The BIG question:=C2=A0 How much should it cost to replace=0A>=
 the $59.00 fork or the stupid pin, knowing that the transmission=0A> has =
to come out and go back in?=0A=0AFWIW, the TR3 flat rate manual gives 4.5 =
hours to R&R the gearbox, plus an=0Ahour for the clutch once the gearbox i=
s out (5.5 total).=C2=A0 TR6 should be=0Asimilar; although a TR3 doesn't h=
ave the dash support to remove, it also has=0Amore bolts holding the seats=
 in.=C2=A0 Say another hour for the dash support and=0Adealing with that p=
esky pin (I drilled the fork & shaft for an additional=0A1/4" grade 8 bolt=
 to reinforce the pin).=0A=0AIIRC my favorite mechanic charges $80/hr, so =
call it $520 for labor, plus=0Aparts, tax, etc.=C2=A0 He will no doubt wan=
t to replace the clutch friction=0Aplate, pressure plate & TOB but I would=
 (did) put them back if they look OK.=0A=0AOr hire a local teenager with a=
 strong back and weak mind for $20/hr and do=0Ait yourself.=C2=A0 The heav=
y lifting portion only takes a few minutes.=C2=A0 You might=0Aeven have so=
me friends who would help for a few beers.=0A=0ARandall=0A=0A=0A** triumph=
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<html><body><div>The Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club in the San Jose/San 
Francisco B=
ay Area, we have this kind of help too. &nbsp;In the last year I can think=
 of two members who were taking out or putting in engines and organized a =
work day at their house and had all kinds of help from fellow club members=
. &nbsp;It's great to have so much knowledgeable help, and makes a fun day=
 out of it too.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>Rye</div><di=
v><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>=
<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div class=3D"x-apple-signature"><pre style=
=3D"font-family: 'SFNSText','Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif; font-=
size: 15px; white-space: pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;" data-mce-style=3D=
"font-family: 'SFNSText','Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif; font-siz=
e: 15px; white-space: pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">Rye=0APH: 530-FIND=
-RYE</pre></div><div><br>On Aug 02, 2016, at 04:27 PM, greg &lt;greg@gelha=
r.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div class=3D=
"msg-quote"><div class=3D"_stretch"><span class=3D"body-text-content">Rand=
all makes some good points. My local Triumph club has several experienced =
members who always come to the aid of owners needing repairs on their cars=
.<br>When I wanted to install my replacement transmission, I chose a date =
and seven members came to make the job&nbsp; easy. Am I lucky, or do other=
 clubs share experiences like this?<br><br>Greg G.<br>Osseo, MN<br><br><br=
><br>SENT FROM ALCATEL ONETOUCH TABLET<br><br>On Jul 31, 2016 10:27 PM, Ra=
ndall &lt;tr3driver@ca.rr.com&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote type=3D"cite" clas=
s=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D=
"quoted-plain-text">&gt; The BIG question:&nbsp; How much should it cost t=
o replace</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text=
">&gt; the $59.00 fork or the stupid pin, knowing that the transmission</b=
lockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">&gt; has t=
o come out and go back in?</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"=
quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quo=
ted-plain-text">FWIW, the TR3 flat rate manual gives 4.5 hours to R&amp;R =
the gearbox, plus an</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted=
-plain-text">hour for the clutch once the gearbox is out (5.5 total).&nbsp=
; TR6 should be</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plai=
n-text">similar; although a TR3 doesn't have the dash support to remove, i=
t also has</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-tex=
t">more bolts holding the seats in.&nbsp; Say another hour for the dash su=
pport and</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text=
">dealing with that pesky pin (I drilled the fork &amp; shaft for an addit=
ional</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">1/=
4" grade 8 bolt to reinforce the pin).</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D"quoted-plain-text">IIRC my favorite mechanic charges $80/hr, so c=
all it $520 for labor, plus</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D=
"quoted-plain-text">parts, tax, etc.&nbsp; He will no doubt want to replac=
e the clutch friction</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quote=
d-plain-text">plate, pressure plate &amp; TOB but I would (did) put them b=
ack if they look OK.</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted=
-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-pl=
ain-text">Or hire a local teenager with a strong back and weak mind for $2=
0/hr and do</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-te=
xt">it yourself.&nbsp; The heavy lifting portion only takes a few minutes.=
&nbsp; You might</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-pla=
in-text">even have some friends who would help for a few beers.</blockquot=
e><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><=
blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">Randall</blockquote><=
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