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Indeed. Many years ago when I was working in HVAC I was trying to calculate
air flow temperature changes based on a coil rated at some value (eg: 22
MBTU/Hr) and my calculations kept coming out way out of the realm of reality.
By a factor of 1000. Then I realized that the "M" stood for Mille (1000 in
Latin). Remember the Mille Miglia is a race of 1000 miles, not 1,000,000
miles. I think that by the end of a million mile race all the spectators will
have gone home.
So when does "M" mean 1,000 and when does it mean 1,000,000? The answer to
that is the same as it is to most of life's questions: "It depends." For
example, how big is a barrel? Answer: It depends. A barrel of beer is 31
gallons. In the US. In Brittan it is 43 gallons (US). But most fluid barrels
are half a hogshead (31.5 US gallons). And a barrel of oil is 42 US gallons.
Context is everything.
BTW, how much is a buttload? Two hogsheads. Look it up.
Dave Massey
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From: Michael Porter <mdporter@dfn.com>
To: triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Sep 8, 2016 2:30 am
Subject: Re: [TR] New Alternator - Stag
On 9/7/2016 6:45 AM, Chad wrote:
> K is for 000 M is for 000 000
>
Umm, not exactly. In the UK and some of the commonwealth countries, M
is traditionally and colloquially used for thousands, because it's
derived from the Latin numeral for one thousand. Kilo (or K) is the
prefix typically used in more recent scientific notation, taken from
Greek (and initially adopted by the French circa early 19th century as a
means of standardization of measurement, on which the ISO gram-meter
system is based). It's also common in the UK to hear "thousand
million," rather than "billion," probably for the same reason--there
was no Latin equivalent for billion. In Latin numeracy, a million was
the largest denomination, and was represented by an 'M' with a bar over
it, the bar representing "times 1000."
That's roughly the etymology of it as I've been able to gather over the
years.
Cheers.
--
Michael Porter
Roswell, NM
Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance....
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size="4">Indeed. Many years ago when I was working in HVAC I was trying
to calculate air flow temperature changes based on a coil rated at some value
(eg: 22 MBTU/Hr) and my calculations kept coming out way out of the realm of
</font><font size="4">reality. By a factor of 1000. Then I realized
that the "M" stood for Mille (1000 in Latin). Remember the Mille Miglia
is a race of 1000 miles, not 1,000,000 miles. I think that by the end of
a million mile race all the spectators will have gone home.<br>
<br>
So when does "M" mean 1,000 and when does it mean 1,000,000? The answer
to that is the same as it is to most of life's questions: "It depends."
For example, how big is a barrel? Answer: It depends. A barrel of
beer is 31 gallons. In the US. In Brittan it is 43 gallons
(US). But most fluid barrels are half a hogshead (31.5 US gallons).
And a barrel of oil is 42 US gallons.<br>
<br>
Context is everything.<br>
<br>
BTW, how much is a buttload? Two hogsheads. Look it up.<br>
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Message-----<br>
From: Michael Porter <mdporter@dfn.com><br>
To: triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net><br>
Sent: Thu, Sep 8, 2016 2:30 am<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] New Alternator - Stag<br>
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On 9/7/2016 6:45 AM, Chad wrote:<br>
> K is for 000 M is for 000 000<br>
><br>
<br>
Umm, not exactly. In the UK and some of the commonwealth countries, M <br>
is traditionally and colloquially used for thousands, because it's <br>
derived from the Latin numeral for one thousand. Kilo (or K) is the <br>
prefix typically used in more recent scientific notation, taken from <br>
Greek (and initially adopted by the French circa early 19th century as a <br>
means of standardization of measurement, on which the ISO gram-meter <br>
system is based). It's also common in the UK to hear "thousand <br>
million," rather than "billion," probably for the same reason--there <br>
was no Latin equivalent for billion. In Latin numeracy, a million was <br>
the largest denomination, and was represented by an 'M' with a bar over <br>
it, the bar representing "times 1000."<br>
<br>
That's roughly the etymology of it as I've been able to gather over the <br>
years.<br>
<br>
<br>
Cheers.<br>
<br>
-- <br>
<br>
<br>
Michael Porter<br>
Roswell, NM<br>
<br>
<br>
Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking
distance....<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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