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Subject: [Fot] New Cars, New Parts
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 20:29:13 -0700 (PDT)
References: <CY4PR14MB11606E52902ADCBC533B3B8290D70@CY4PR14MB1160.namprd14.prod.outlook.com> <1622fbcdc4d-19c2-3b3a@webjas-vab163.srv.aolmail.net>
I have at least 10 TR3, no syncro first gear transmissions sitting on a palette 
in an old barn, if anyone might need one, let me know.

No overdrives.

The few TR4A-TR6 boxes that I have are keepers with the one overdrive on a TR3 
box that was in my TR2.


Dave H.

> On March 16, 2018 at 9:55 AM fubog1 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
>     The early boxes aren't worth much, they have inherent weaknesses, but the 
> later 6 box is much better, especially for a racecar.
>     Glen
> 
> 
> 
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>     To: John Hasty <jhasty at mhc-law.com>
>     Cc: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>     Sent: Fri, Mar 16, 2018 12:42 pm
>     Subject: Re: [Fot] New Cars, New Parts
> 
>     I wish, they're just old stock non OD units.  from TR-3's and probably 
> 6's.  I think I have about 5.  don't "need" any of them.
> 
>     Cheers, Henry
> 
>     Sent from Outlook http://aka.ms/weboutlook
> 
> 
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------
>     From: John Hasty <jhasty at mhc-law.com>
>     Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 6:16 PM
>     To: Henry A. Morrison
>     Cc: Kenneth Knight; fot
>     Subject: Re: [Fot] New Cars, New Parts
>      
>     Henry... any of those gear sets you have happen to be the close ratio TR 
> set?  I still use one with an A OD & could use a spare.....
> 
>     Sent from my iPhone
> 
>     On Mar 15, 2018, at 7:45 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at 
> autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote:
> 
> 
>         > >         I just can't disagree with this statement more.  
> >              1. Vintage racing is dying.  There are way fewer cars and 
> > races than there were in 1986 when I started.
> >              2. The newer cars and drivers scarcely know what a road course 
> > is.  Car culture was different after '72 and especially now, just look at 
> > the current Fast and furious movies that sell the current car culture.
> >              3.  how many old TR gearboxes from my personal collection 
> > would you like to have delivered to your place tomorrow? Or buy some of the 
> > ones on ebay for $150, that seems to be the going rate.
> >              4. Clubs that accept cars from the 80's are selling out for 
> > the entry fee, and in doing so driving me away in the process.
> > 
> >         Have a great racing season, 
> > 
> >         Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM
> > 
> >         Sent from Outlook http://aka.ms/weboutlook
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >         ---------------------------------------------
> > 
> >         It is good to see that other clubs are allowing newer cars into 
> > their races.  VARA has been doing this for several years so that we could 
> > survive, keep the club solvent and the cost of racing reasonable.  The 
> > future of vintage racing is an expansion to cars from the 80?s and 90?s, 
> > they are long past their prime in other venues, cheap and they bring in new 
> > drivers.  They are in fact ?vintage?, like our cars were in the 80? and 
> > 90?s.  More important, these are the guys and gals that lusted for a 
> > certain hot car of the that era and now have older kids and the bucks to go 
> > racing.  Without these folks our sport will pass along with us.
> >          
> >         The same is true of parts.  Much of our equipment is worn out and 
> > not maintainable without great cost and effort any longer.  Gear boxes are 
> > an example.  I am down to my last good transmission case for my dog box.  
> > When that goes, or the gear set is toast, I am making the switch to a 
> > modern box (same ratios) that I can maintain.  Like many of us I have 
> > missed races because of transmission failures.  Tony runs a Ford 8? because 
> > he doesn?t want to get hurt, and it is bullet proof for racing, even has a 
> > weight penalty.   A gear box switch is inevitable if we want to keep our 
> > cars on track at an expenditure of time and money that makes sense.
> >          
> >         There are tons of other parts that make engines last longer (and 
> > yes they make more power).  An old TR motor is nothing but half a Chevy 
> > Small Block; those guys spent hundreds of millions developing motor parts 
> > that we can take advantage of.  Same is true of blueprinting techniques, 
> > there are much better ways to build engines than ?back in the day? and if 
> > you read a book and learn how to do it the bloody lump lasts twice as long. 
> >  Last time I had my motor out I could have put the coated bearings with 25 
> > races on them back in.  At 36 races I had <5% leak down on the rings and 
> > valves.  Started out building the old school way, with old school parts, 
> > those days are over as I don?t have the time to spend five days in the shop 
> > for every day at the track.
> >          
> >         Oil.  There is no such thing as cheap racing oil.  Modern oil is 
> > the best it has ever been and makes the motor last.  I had technical help 
> > from Lake Speed who is the ?man? for Joe Gibbs Driven race oil.  The stuff 
> > is $18 a quart but will last 500+ miles in the car (4-6 race weekends).  
> > Just change the filter after every race and add on quart, total cost 
> > $30.00.  I can run all the way down to 27 wt. (mixing) but just run the 30 
> > wt. racing oil even at +100 degrees in the desert and the oil pressure is 
> > always spot on.  Tight clearances, light oil and great bearing life, well 
> > worth the cost.
> >          
> >         My point in all of this is that ?vintage? racing is changing, both 
> > the cars and the people.  We are going to have to accept and adapt or 
> > slowly see our sport fade.  They will always be a special place for those 
> > cars with a 50 year race history, prepared exactly like it raced in 1965.   
> > For the rest of the grid, and those of us that don?t have cars with 
> > history, there are going to be cars with certain changes that get us to the 
> > track.  Besides some of us are just SoCal Hot Rodders at heart with a touch 
> > of ?good ole boy? NACAR ingenuity.  Now I need to get back to work on that 
> > 85% scale TR-4 body in aluminum, or possible carbon fiber???..Everyone have 
> > a great 2018 season racing!
> >          
> >         Ken
> > 
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