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Re: [TR] [NET] Battery charging

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Subject: Re: [TR] [NET] Battery charging
From: David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 14:23:21 -0500
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Interesting about the highly-rated Odyssey battery: It's only rated for
330CCA, whereas the Optima redtop is rated at 720CCA... I thought these two
models were AGM "competitors"....

Dave

On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 1:53 PM Carl Hanson via NET <
net@newenglandtriumphs.org> wrote:

> Gotta be careful about charging those AGM batteries. I made a mistake and
> used my usual charger on an Optima and it totally discharged. Had to foll=
ow
> a special method to get it recharged, but finally got it back to full.
> However, since then it does not hold a charge for more than a week.
> Bummer.
>
> Carl Hanson
> Former TR6 owner.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Barnard via NET <net@newenglandtriumphs.org>
> To: bruce pierce <ag2dogs@hotmail.com>
> Cc: TR3 Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>; NET Member mailing list <
> net@newenglandtriumphs.org>
> Sent: Sat, Dec 26, 2020 10:56 am
> Subject: Re: [NET] Battery charging
>
> I too have heard good things about the Interstate battery.  However, the
> fluorescent green case does not agree with my engine bay color scheme.  ;=
-)
> My last DieHard only lived 2 or 3 years.  To be fair, it was left on the
> basement workbench most of the winter, idle, as the trickle charger plug
> had popped out of the wall receptacle.  Also, I discovered that my
> alternator was weak.
> I bought another Diehard.  We=E2=80=99ll see how it goes.
> Too bad about Sears.  I kinda miss the days of going to the mall and
> wandering through the tool department while the family shopped for clothe=
s
> or whatever.  Last time I went, the place was deserted.  I bought a
> Craftsman screwdriver.  A few weeks later I put it to the test removing a
> rusted screw, and the tip of the screwdriver itself twisted.  Damn!  I
> could take it back, but who wants another one?
> In my town (Grafton, MA) there are at least three houses that were
> purchased as kits from Sears & Roebuck, years ago.  They are solid and
> quite charming.
>
> My $.02
> _Rick B.
> 1973 TR6
>
> On Dec 26, 2020, at 9:07 AM, bruce pierce via NET <
> net@newenglandtriumphs.org> wrote:
>
> I have been in the Automotive Repair Industry in one way or another for
> most of my adult life and have installed Many different types of
> batteries.I have Always liked Interstate Batteries for durability and
> longevity over the "other" brands.
> It mostly comes down to the convenience of  where you are going to
> purchase it because most people are not going to drive 50 miles when ther=
e
> other choices closer.
> My 2 cents
> Bruce and the Flivver
> ------------------------------
> *From:* NET <net-bounces@newenglandtriumphs.org> on behalf of Tom
> Mulligan via NET <net@newenglandtriumphs.org>
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 26, 2020 8:06 AM
> *To:* New England Triumphs <net@newenglandtriumphs.org>; TR3 Triumphs <
> triumphs@autox.team.net>; David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [NET] Battery charging
>
> I believe the Optima is an AGM (absorbed glass Mat) battery and quite
> different than the lead acid Die Hard. They are among other things far le=
ss
> prone to loss of charge from sitting idle. You situation makes perfect
> sense.
> Tom
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* NET <net-bounces@newenglandtriumphs.org> on behalf of David
> Friedlander via NET <net@newenglandtriumphs.org>
> *Sent:* Friday, December 25, 2020 3:17 PM
> *To:* New England Triumphs <net@newenglandtriumphs.org>; TR3 Triumphs <
> triumphs@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [NET] Battery charging
>
> Hey all ~ Merry Christmas ...!
>
> I have one float charger that serves both my TR3 that has an Optima red
> top battery and my TR6 that has a Sears Die Hard. Seems like even though
> each battery is only 2 -3 years old, the Die Hard seems to need more
> frequent =E2=80=9Ctopping up=E2=80=9D than the Optima.... Interesting....
>
> Dave
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">Interesting about the highl=
y-rated Odyssey battery: It&#39;s only rated for 330CCA, whereas the Optima=
 redtop is rated at 720CCA... I thought these two models were AGM &quot;com=
petitors&quot;....</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:c=
omic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:=
large;color:#000099">Dave</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div di=
r=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 1:53 PM Carl Hanson =
via NET &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:net@newenglandtriumphs.org";>net@newenglandtri=
umphs.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"color:black;font:12pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,Times,serif=
">Gotta be careful about charging those AGM batteries. I made a mistake and=
 used my usual charger on an Optima and it totally discharged. Had to follo=
w a special method to get it recharged, but finally got it back to full. Ho=
wever, since then it does not hold a charge for more than a week.=C2=A0 Bum=
mer.
<div><br>
</div>

<div>Carl Hanson</div>

<div>Former TR6 owner.<br>
<br>
<br>

<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----=
Original Message-----<br>
From: Richard Barnard via NET &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:net@newenglandtriumphs.=
org" target=3D"_blank">net@newenglandtriumphs.org</a>&gt;<br>
To: bruce pierce &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ag2dogs@hotmail.com"; target=3D"_blan=
k">ag2dogs@hotmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
Cc: TR3 Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_=
blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;; NET Member mailing list &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:net@newenglandtriumphs.org"; target=3D"_blank">net@newenglandtriu=
mphs.org</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Sat, Dec 26, 2020 10:56 am<br>
Subject: Re: [NET] Battery charging<br>
<br>

<div id=3D"gmail-m_1503535171074569627yiv0738254734">
<div><span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">      </span>I too have heard good 
thi=
ngs about the Interstate battery.=C2=A0 However, the fluorescent green case=
 does not agree with my engine bay color scheme. =C2=A0;-)<br clear=3D"none=
">
<div><span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">      </span>My last DieHard only 
live=
d 2 or 3 years.=C2=A0 To be fair, it was left on the basement workbench mos=
t of the winter, idle, as the trickle charger plug had popped out of the wa=
ll receptacle.=C2=A0 Also, I discovered that my alternator was weak.</div>

<div><span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">      </span>I bought another 
Diehard.=
=C2=A0 We=E2=80=99ll see how it goes.</div>

<div><span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">      </span>Too bad about Sears.=C2=
=A0 I kinda miss the days of going to the mall and wandering through the to=
ol department while the family shopped for clothes or whatever.=C2=A0 Last =
time I went, the place was deserted.=C2=A0 I bought a Craftsman screwdriver=
.=C2=A0 A few weeks later I put it to the test removing a rusted screw, and=
 the tip of the screwdriver itself twisted.=C2=A0 Damn!=C2=A0 I could take =
it back, but who wants another one?</div>

<div><span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">      </span>In my town (Grafton, MA) 
=
there are at least three houses that were purchased as kits from Sears &amp=
; Roebuck, years ago.=C2=A0 They are solid and quite charming.</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>My $.02</div>

<div>_Rick B.</div>

<div>1973 TR6</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div id=3D"gmail-m_1503535171074569627yiv0738254734yqtfd42686">
<div>On Dec 26, 2020, at 9:07 AM, bruce pierce via NET &lt;<a rel=3D"nofoll=
ow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:net@newenglandtriumph=
s.org" target=3D"_blank">net@newenglandtriumphs.org</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<br clear=3D"none">
<div></div>
</div>
</blockquote></div>
</div>

<div id=3D"gmail-m_1503535171074569627yiv0738254734yqtfd50133">
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-w=
eight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;whit=
e-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">I have been in the Au=
tomotive Repair Industry in one way or another for most of my adult life an=
d have installed Many different types of batteries.I have Always liked Inte=
rstate Batteries for durability and longevity over the &quot;other&quot; br=
ands.</div>

<div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-w=
eight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;whit=
e-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">It mostly comes down =
to the convenience of=C2=A0 where you are going to purchase it because most=
 people are not going to drive 50 miles when there other choices closer.</d=
iv>

<div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-w=
eight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;whit=
e-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">My 2 cents</div>

<div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-w=
eight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;whit=
e-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">Bruce and the Flivver=
=C2=A0</div>
<hr style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-we=
ight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white=
-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;display:inline-block;wi=
dth:983.906px"><span style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-sty=
le:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-tra=
nsform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:=
none;display:inline"></span>
<div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"gmail-m_1503535171074569627yiv0738254734divRplyFwdMs=
g" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-wei=
ght:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-=
space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><font face=3D"Calibri, =
sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>NET &lt=
;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:net-=
bounces@newenglandtriumphs.org" target=3D"_blank">net-bounces@newenglandtri=
umphs.org</a>&gt; on behalf of Tom Mulligan via NET &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:net@newenglandtriumphs.o=
rg" target=3D"_blank">net@newenglandtriumphs.org</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">=
<b>Sent:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>Saturday, December 26, 2020 8:06 AM<br clear=
=3D"none"><b>To:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>New England Triumphs &lt;<a rel=3D"n=
ofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:net@newenglandtr=
iumphs.org" target=3D"_blank">net@newenglandtriumphs.org</a>&gt;; TR3 Trium=
phs &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mail=
to:triumphs@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>&g=
t;; David Friedlander &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"=
rect" href=3D"mailto:forzion7@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">forzion7@gmail.c=
om</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>Re: [NET] Ba=
ttery charging</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:n=
ormal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transfo=
rm:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">I be=
lieve the Optima is an AGM (absorbed glass Mat) battery and quite different=
 than the lead acid Die Hard. They are among other things far less prone to=
 loss of charge from sitting idle. You situation makes perfect sense.</div>

<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">Tom<=
br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>
<div id=3D"gmail-m_1503535171074569627yiv0738254734x_appendonsend"></div>

<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><br =
clear=3D"none"></div>
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Msg"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>From:</=
b><span>=C2=A0</span>NET &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=
=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:net-bounces@newenglandtriumphs.org"; target=3D"_bla=
nk">net-bounces@newenglandtriumphs.org</a>&gt; on behalf of David Friedland=
er via NET &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=
=3D"mailto:net@newenglandtriumphs.org"; target=3D"_blank">net@newenglandtriu=
mphs.org</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>Friday, D=
ecember 25, 2020 3:17 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>New=
 England Triumphs &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect=
" href=3D"mailto:net@newenglandtriumphs.org"; target=3D"_blank">net@newengla=
ndtriumphs.org</a>&gt;; TR3 Triumphs &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener norefe=
rrer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_bla=
nk">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b><span>=
=C2=A0</span>[NET] Battery charging</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>

<div>Hey all ~ Merry Christmas ...!
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>I have one float charger that serves both my TR3 that has an Optima re=
d top battery and my TR6 that has a Sears Die Hard. Seems like even though =
each battery is only 2 -3 years old, the Die Hard seems to need more freque=
nt =E2=80=9Ctopping up=E2=80=9D than the Optima.... Interesting....</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Dave</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
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