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?? Which Odessey were you looking at?

330 is the 925 Odessey (smaller than the Optima and will start a 6 cyl 
effortlessley  BTDT)
The problem is the two companies doe not even list the same specs for 
the similar batteries
the 1200 will quite literally put out 1200 amps for 5 seconds. the 
925...925 amps.

The 1200 is also still a much smaller battery than the Optima equiv.

he he...i'd be deathly afraid if my starter needed 800A to start! Our 
triumph batt cables can't handle that kind of current!  ha ha

ptegler

On 12/29/2020 2:23 PM, David Friedlander wrote:
> Interesting about the highly-rated Odyssey battery: It's only rated 
> for 330CCA, whereas the Optima redtop is rated at 720CCA... I thought 
> these two models were AGM "competitors"....
>
> Dave
>
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 1:53 PM Carl Hanson via NET 
>
>     Gotta be careful about charging those AGM batteries. I made a
>     mistake and used my usual charger on an Optima and it totally
>     discharged. Had to follow a special method to get it recharged,
>     but finally got it back to full. However, since then it does not
>     hold a charge for more than a week.  Bummer.
>
>     Carl Hanson
>     Former TR6 owner.
>
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Richard Barnard via NET <net@newenglandtriumphs.org
>     Cc: TR3 Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net
>     Sent: Sat, Dec 26, 2020 10:56 am
>     Subject: Re: [NET] Battery charging
>
>     I too have heard good things about the Interstate battery. 
>     However, the fluorescent green case does not agree with my engine
>     bay color scheme.  ;-)
>     My last DieHard only lived 2 or 3 years.  To be fair, it was left
>     on the basement workbench most of the winter, idle, as the trickle
>     charger plug had popped out of the wall receptacle.  Also, I
>     discovered that my alternator was weak.
>     I bought another Diehard.  Weâ??ll see how it goes.
>     Too bad about Sears.  I kinda miss the days of going to the mall
>     and wandering through the tool department while the family shopped
>     for clothes or whatever.  Last time I went, the place was
>     deserted.  I bought a Craftsman screwdriver  A few weeks later I
>     put it to the test removing a rusted screw, and the tip of the
>     screwdriver itself twisted.  Damn!  I could take it back, but who
>     wants another one?
>     In my town (Grafton, MA) there are at least three houses that were
>     purchased as kits from Sears & Roebuck, years ago.  They are solid
>     and quite charming.
>
>     My $.02
>     _Rick B.
>     1973 TR6
>
>>     On Dec 26, 2020, at 9:07 AM, bruce pierce via NET
>>     wrote:
>>
>     I have been in the Automotive Repair Industry in one way or
>     another for most of my adult life and have installed Many
>     different types of batteries.I have Always liked Interstate
>     Batteries for durability and longevity over the "other" brands.
>     It mostly comes down to the convenience of  where you are going to
>     purchase it because most people are not going to drive 50 miles
>     when there other choices closer.
>     My 2 cents
>     Bruce and the Flivver
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     *From:*NET <net-bounces@newenglandtriumphs.org
>     Mulligan via NET <net@newenglandtriumphs.org
>     *Sent:*Saturday, December 26, 2020 8:06 AM
>     *To:*New England Triumphs <net@newenglandtriumphs.org
>     *Subject:*Re: [NET] Battery charging
>     I believe the Optima is an AGM (absorbed glass Mat) battery and
>     quite different than the lead acid Die Hard. They are among other
>     things far less prone to loss of charge from sitting idle. You
>     situation makes perfect sense.
>     Tom
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     *From:*NET <net-bounces@newenglandtriumphs.org
>     Friedlander via NET <net@newenglandtriumphs.org
>     *Sent:*Friday, December 25, 2020 3:17 PM
>     *To:*New England Triumphs <net@newenglandtriumphs.org
>     *Subject:*[NET] Battery charging
>     Hey all ~ Merry Christmas ...!
>
>     I have one float charger that serves both my TR3 that has an
>     Optima red top battery and my TR6 that has a Sears Die Hard. Seems
>     like even though each battery is only 2 -3 years old, the Die Hard
>     seems to need more frequent â??topping upâ?? than the Optima....
>     Interesting....
>
>     Dave
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    <p>?? Which Odessey were you looking at?</p>
    <p>330 is the 925 Odessey (smaller than the Optima and will start a
      6 cyl effortlessley  BTDT)<br>
      The problem is the two companies doe not even list the same specs
      for the similar batteries<br>
      the 1200 will quite literally put out 1200 amps for 5 seconds. 
      the 925...925 amps.</p>
    <p>The 1200 is also still a much smaller battery than the Optima
      equiv.<br>
    </p>
    <p>he he...i'd be deathly afraid if my starter needed 800A to start!
      Our triumph batt cables can't handle that kind of current!  ha ha
      <br>
    </p>
    <p>ptegler<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/29/2020 2:23 PM, David
      Friedlander wrote:<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans
          ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">Interesting about
          the highly-rated Odyssey battery: It's only rated for 330CCA,
          whereas the Optima redtop is rated at 720CCA... I thought
          these two models were AGM "competitors"....</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans
          ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans
          ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">Dave</div>
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      <br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 1:53
          PM Carl Hanson via NET &lt;<a
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            moz-do-not-send="true">net@newenglandtriumphs.org</a>&gt;
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          <div style="color:black;font:12pt &quot;Times New
            Roman&quot;,Times,serif">Gotta be careful about charging
            those AGM batteries. I made a mistake and used my usual
            charger on an Optima and it totally discharged. Had to
            follow a special method to get it recharged, but finally got
            it back to full. However, since then it does not hold a
            charge for more than a week.  Bummer.
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Carl Hanson</div>
            <div>Former TR6 owner.<br>
              <br>
              <br>
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                From: Richard Barnard via NET &lt;<a
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                To: bruce pierce &lt;<a
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                Cc: TR3 Triumphs &lt;<a
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                Subject: Re: [NET] Battery charging<br>
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                  <div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">      </span>I too
                    have heard good things about the Interstate
                    battery.  However, the fluorescent green case does
                    not agree with my engine bay color scheme.  ;-)<br
                      clear="none">
                    <div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">    </span>My
                      last DieHard only lived 2 or 3 years.  To be fair,
                      it was left on the basement workbench most of the
                      winter, idle, as the trickle charger plug had
                      popped out of the wall receptacle.  Also, I
                      discovered that my alternator was weak.</div>
                    <div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">    </span>I
                      bought another Diehard.  Weâ??ll see how it goes.</div>
                    <div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">    </span>Too
                      bad about Sears.  I kinda miss the days of going
                      to the mall and wandering through the tool
                      department while the family shopped for clothes or
                      whatever.  Last time I went, the place was
                      deserted.  I bought a Craftsman screwdriver  A few
                      weeks later I put it to the test removing a rusted
                      screw, and the tip of the screwdriver itself
                      twisted.  Damn!  I could take it back, but who
                      wants another one?</div>
                    <div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">    </span>In
                      my town (Grafton, MA) there are at least three
                      houses that were purchased as kits from Sears
                      &amp; Roebuck, years ago.  They are solid and
                      quite charming.</div>
                    <div><br clear="none">
                    </div>
                    <div>My $.02</div>
                    <div>_Rick B.</div>
                    <div>1973 TR6</div>
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                          <div>On Dec 26, 2020, at 9:07 AM, bruce pierce
                            via NET &lt;<a rel="nofollow noopener
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                  <div
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                    <div>
                      <div
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                        have been in the Automotive Repair Industry in
                        one way or another for most of my adult life and
                        have installed Many different types of
                        batteries.I have Always liked Interstate
                        Batteries for durability and longevity over the
                        "other" brands.</div>
                      <div
style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">It
                        mostly comes down to the convenience of  where
                        you are going to purchase it because most people
                        are not going to drive 50 miles when there other
                        choices closer.</div>
                      <div
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                          believe the Optima is an AGM (absorbed glass
                          Mat) battery and quite different than the lead
                          acid Die Hard. They are among other things far
                          less prone to loss of charge from sitting
                          idle. You situation makes perfect sense.</div>
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                          <div>Hey all ~ Merry Christmas ...!
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                            <div>I have one float charger that serves
                              both my TR3 that has an Optima red top
                              battery and my TR6 that has a Sears Die
                              Hard. Seems like even though each battery
                              is only 2 -3 years old, the Die Hard seems
                              to need more frequent â??topping upâ?? than
                              the Optima.... Interesting....</div>
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