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Re: [TR] New TR6 top

To: "rrochlin@comcast.net" <rrochlin@comcast.net>, "triumphs@autox.team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] New TR6 top
From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 22:00:24 +0000 (UTC)
Delivered-to: mharc@autox.team.net
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 Half a century and probably half a million in R&D.
I had an EZ-On top installed last March/April.=C2=A0 It was really tight an=
d hard to put up when it was first installed but I've left it up when I'm n=
ot driving it and it has been getting easier though still a little bit of a=
 tug to get latched.=C2=A0 But my last top (vinyl) flipped up and latched w=
ith no effort at all.=C2=A0 I miss that top.=C2=A0 But after 25 years it wa=
s a bit long in the tooth.=C2=A0 We will see how much easier it gets over t=
he years.
=20
Dave=20

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-----Original Message-----
From: Rochlin Robert <rrochlin@comcast.net>
To: list Triumph <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Dec 29, 2020 3:52 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] New TR6 top

 So, does anyone have a canvas top that goes up and down as it should? We s=
eem to have trashed Robbins and Prestige. =C2=A0My friend has a Mazda and h=
e can easily grab the top handle from the drivers seat and pull it up with =
little effort. A half century advance in engeneering? Best, Bob


On Dec 29, 2020, at 4:39 PM, John Macartney <John.Macartney@Ukpips.org.uk> =
wrote:



Vote for Guy Fawkes! The only man who entered Parliament with honest intent=
ions.
On 29 Dec 2020, at 17:58, David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com> wrote:


I have had a Prestige Twilfast-canvas-type=C2=A0top for my TR6 for the last=
 ten + years. It still looks and fits great! I had it professionally instal=
led and I've had zero regrets. Not sure how you can see the hoodstick throu=
gh the window....
Dave
On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 12:53 PM dave <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:

I have a prestige top on my tr6 and I hate it.=C2=A0 it really is not the r=
ight size (too narrow) and the rear window is too large, so you can see the=
 hoodstick through it=C2=A0And, just half a dozen years from having it inst=
alled, there are glued portions that have become unglued.=C2=A0 Its really =
awful, and if my options weren=E2=80=99t so expensive I would replace it=C2=
=A0From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of David Frie=
dlander
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 11:01 AM
To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net; dave@mdmackay.ca
Subject: Re: [TR] New TR6 top=C2=A0At least the vinyl top has a plasticizer=
 in it. Sunfast tops are NOT going to stretch no matter what or when. When =
they're tight, they're tight. Not sure I understand why the various manufac=
turers don't try out their patterns on actual vehicles and adjust them, esp=
ecially for when they use fabrics that don't stretch. I have a hoodstick co=
ver from Prestige in the UK and have had a real challenge to get it to stre=
tch to fit the lift-the-dot fasteners properly. The manufacturer has never =
actually fitted one to a real TR3 so I don't know how they derive their pat=
terns....=C2=A0Dave Friedlander=C2=A0Dave=C2=A0On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 11:5=
1 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:
The vinyl material used in tops is produced with a plasticizer which is an =
additive that makes the vinyl soft, pliable and stretchable.=C2=A0 The prob=
lem is this product is volatile and will dissipate over time making the top=
 less and less stretchable.=C2=A0 If the top stretched whens installed (and=
 installers don't like wrinkles and the easiest way to remove wrinkles is t=
he stretch the top to remove them) it will become more difficult to erect, =
especially when cold.=C2=A0 When I rebuilt my TR6 in 1996 a friend gave me =
a top that was sitting in his basement for 20-odd years (he bought it but h=
is car was totaled before he could get it installed).=C2=A0 I had that top =
installed and it was a dream to erect and fold the whole time I had it.=C2=
=A0 I attribute that to the fact that it wasn't stretchable when installed.=
=C2=A0My advice is to get your top installed when the weather is cold and t=
he material is more resistant to stretching.=C2=A0 The installer will pre-s=
tretch the top less and it will work better in the long run.=C2=A0Here's an=
other anecdote: I bought a tonneau for the TR3 which was, in my opinion, cu=
t about 1 inch too short.=C2=A0 I installed the Lift-A-Dot snaps as close t=
o the edges as I could but still could only install it on a hot day in the =
sun.=C2=A0 Since this car lives mostly in the garage the tonneau is virtual=
ly permanently installed and over the years as the cover gets less stretchy=
 it has become easier to install.=C2=A0 I think the plasticizer has dissipa=
ted and the top took a set in the stretched position.=C2=A0 So, this raises=
 a question: What would happen if one slit some garden hose and placed it o=
ver the bows and left the top up with a little extra stretch.=C2=A0 After a=
 while the top will take a set with extra slack, perhaps making it easier t=
o put up.=C2=A0Or buy your top years before you install it.=C2=A0Dave =C2=
=A0=C2=A0-----Original Message-----
From: Dave MacKay <dave@mdmackay.ca>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2020 4:41 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] New TR6 topI, too, have had problems with the Robbins top=
s although my car is a TR3A, not a TR6.=C2=A0Like Bob with his TR6, my tonn=
eau (and also a convertible top) is so tight that I can only fit it with gr=
eat effort even in warm sunny weather. The tonneau was installed by profess=
ional installers who complained about the fit. Robbins was responsive when =
I complained. I even sent my previous tonneau to them so they could see wha=
t fit, but the replacement they sent me after that was no better.=C2=A0The =
top hasn=E2=80=99t stretched or loosened over time. If anything, it may hav=
e shrunk because it seems as hard or harder than ever to put on.=C2=A0I wou=
ld suggest having the top (tonneau or convertible) made by your installer s=
o that you get a good fit. That would have been cheaper for me than buying =
the Robbins tonneau and having to pay for two installations.=C2=A0As always=
, particularly since you=E2=80=99re dealing with a TR6 not a TR3A, YMMV=C2=
=A0Good luck,=C2=A0




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<div style=3D"color:black;font: 12pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<div> <font size=3D"3">Half a century and probably half a million in R&amp;=
D.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">I had an EZ-On top installed last March/April.&nbsp; =
It was really tight and hard to put up when it was first installed but I've=
 left it up when I'm not driving it and it has been getting easier though s=
till a little bit of a tug to get latched.&nbsp; But my last top (vinyl) fl=
ipped up and latched with no effort at all.&nbsp; I miss that top.&nbsp; Bu=
t after 25 years it was a bit long in the tooth.&nbsp; We will see how much=
 easier it gets over the years.</font><br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
<br>
</div>

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</div>

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</div>

<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----=
Original Message-----<br>
From: Rochlin Robert &lt;rrochlin@comcast.net&gt;<br>
To: list Triumph &lt;triumphs@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Sent: Tue, Dec 29, 2020 3:52 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] New TR6 top<br>
<br>

<div id=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div><span class=3D"yiv0369424193Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre;"=
>=09=09</span>So, does anyone have a canvas top that goes up and down as it=
 should? We seem to have trashed Robbins and Prestige.
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193"><span class=3D"yiv0369424193Apple-tab-span" st=
yle=3D"white-space:pre;">=09</span>&nbsp;My friend has a Mazda and he can e=
asily grab the top handle from the drivers seat and pull it up with little =
effort. A half century advance in engeneering?</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193"><span class=3D"yiv0369424193Apple-tab-span" st=
yle=3D"white-space:pre;">=09</span>Best,</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193"><span class=3D"yiv0369424193Apple-tab-span" st=
yle=3D"white-space:pre;">=09</span>Bob<br class=3D"yiv0369424193" clear=3D"=
none">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193yqt1568740102" id=3D"yiv0369424193yqt91731">
<div><br class=3D"yiv0369424193" clear=3D"none"><blockquote class=3D"yiv036=
9424193" type=3D"cite">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">On Dec 29, 2020, at 4:39 PM, John Macartney &l=
t;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv036942=
4193" ymailto=3D"mailto:John.Macartney@Ukpips.org.uk"; target=3D"_blank" hre=
f=3D"mailto:John.Macartney@Ukpips.org.uk";>John.Macartney@Ukpips.org.uk</a>&=
gt; wrote:</div>
<br class=3D"yiv0369424193Apple-interchange-newline" clear=3D"none">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193"></div>
</blockquote></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193yqt1568740102" id=3D"yiv0369424193yqt55327">
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193"><br class=3D"yiv0369424193" clear=3D"none"><br=
 class=3D"yiv0369424193" clear=3D"none">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193" dir=3D"ltr">Vote for Guy Fawkes! The only man =
who entered Parliament with honest intentions.</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193" dir=3D"ltr"><br class=3D"yiv0369424193" clear=
=3D"none">On 29 Dec 2020, at 17:58, David Friedlander &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollo=
w noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv0369424193" ymailto=3D"ma=
ilto:forzion7@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:forzion7@gmail.co=
m">forzion7@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D"yiv0369424193" clear=3D"no=
ne"><br class=3D"yiv0369424193" clear=3D"none"></div>
<blockquote class=3D"yiv0369424193" type=3D"cite">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193" dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193" dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans m=
s, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099;">I have had a Prestige Twilfas=
t-canvas-type&nbsp;top for my TR6 for the last ten + years. It still looks =
and fits great! I had it professionally installed and I've had zero regrets=
. Not sure how you can see the hoodstick through the window....</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans m=
s, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099;"><br class=3D"yiv0369424193" c=
lear=3D"none"></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans m=
s, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099;">Dave</div>
</div>
<br class=3D"yiv0369424193" clear=3D"none">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at =
12:53 PM dave &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" cl=
ass=3D"yiv0369424193" ymailto=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com"; target=3D"_blank"=
 href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com";>dave@ranteer.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=
=3D"yiv0369424193" clear=3D"none"></div>
<blockquote class=3D"yiv0369424193gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193" style=3D"" lang=3D"EN-US">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193gmail-m_3077276246423130986WordSection1">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal">I have a prestige top on my tr6 and I=
 hate it.&nbsp; it really is not the right size (too narrow) and the rear w=
indow is too large, so you can see the hoodstick through it<u class=3D"yiv0=
369424193"></u><u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal"><u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u>&nbsp;=
<u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal">And, just half a dozen years from hav=
ing it installed, there are glued portions that have become unglued.&nbsp; =
Its really awful, and if my options weren=E2=80=99t so expensive I would re=
place it<u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u><u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u></div=
>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal"><u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u>&nbsp;=
<u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193" style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;=
border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in;=
">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal"><b class=3D"yiv0369424193">From:</b> =
Triumphs &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" class=
=3D"yiv0369424193" ymailto=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net"; targe=
t=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net";>triumphs-bounc=
es@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <b class=3D"yiv0369424193">On Behalf Of </b>David=
 Friedlander<br class=3D"yiv0369424193" clear=3D"none"><b class=3D"yiv03694=
24193">Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 29, 2020 11:01 AM<br class=3D"yiv0369424=
193" clear=3D"none"><b class=3D"yiv0369424193">To:</b> DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a =
rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv0369424193"=
 ymailto=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:dav=
e1massey@cs.com">dave1massey@cs.com</a>&gt;<br class=3D"yiv0369424193" clea=
r=3D"none"><b class=3D"yiv0369424193">Cc:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener n=
oreferrer" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv0369424193" ymailto=3D"mailto:triumph=
s@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"=
>triumphs@autox.team.net</a>; <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=
=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv0369424193" ymailto=3D"mailto:dave@mdmackay.ca"; targe=
t=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:dave@mdmackay.ca";>dave@mdmackay.ca</a><br class=
=3D"yiv0369424193" clear=3D"none"><b class=3D"yiv0369424193">Subject:</b> R=
e: [TR] New TR6 top<u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u><u class=3D"yiv0369424193=
"></u></div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal"><u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u>&nbsp;=
<u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u></div>

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<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv0369424193" style=
=3D"font-size:18pt;font-family:Sans;color:rgb(0,0,153);">At least the vinyl=
 top has a plasticizer in it. Sunfast tops are NOT going to stretch no matt=
er what or when. When they're tight, they're tight. Not sure I understand w=
hy the various manufacturers don't try out their patterns on actual vehicle=
s and adjust them, especially for when they use fabrics that don't stretch.=
 I have a hoodstick cover from Prestige in the UK and have had a real chall=
enge to get it to stretch to fit the lift-the-dot fasteners properly. The m=
anufacturer has never actually fitted one to a real TR3 so I don't know how=
 they derive their patterns....<u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u><u class=3D"y=
iv0369424193"></u></span></div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv0369424193" style=
=3D"font-size:18pt;font-family:Sans;color:rgb(0,0,153);"><u class=3D"yiv036=
9424193"></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u></span></div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv0369424193" style=
=3D"font-size:18pt;font-family:Sans;color:rgb(0,0,153);">Dave Friedlander<u=
 class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u><u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u></span></div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv0369424193" style=
=3D"font-size:18pt;font-family:Sans;color:rgb(0,0,153);"><u class=3D"yiv036=
9424193"></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u></span></div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv0369424193" style=
=3D"font-size:18pt;font-family:Sans;color:rgb(0,0,153);">Dave<u class=3D"yi=
v0369424193"></u><u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u></span></div>
</div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal"><u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u>&nbsp;=
<u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal">On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 11:51 AM DAVI=
D MASSEY &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" class=
=3D"yiv0369424193" ymailto=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com";>dave1massey@cs.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u clas=
s=3D"yiv0369424193"></u><u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u></div>
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"yiv0369424193" style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:n=
one;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0=
in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193" id=3D"yiv0369424193gmail-m_3077276246423130986=
gmail-m_-4886593744213825898yiv8638386929">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv0369424193" style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">The vinyl material used =
in tops is produced with a plasticizer which is an additive that makes the =
vinyl soft, pliable and stretchable.&nbsp; The problem is this product is v=
olatile and will dissipate over time making the top less and less stretchab=
le.&nbsp; If the top stretched whens installed (and installers don't like w=
rinkles and the easiest way to remove wrinkles is the stretch the top to re=
move them) it will become more difficult to erect, especially when cold.&nb=
sp; When I rebuilt my TR6 in 1996 a friend gave me a top that was sitting i=
n his basement for 20-odd years (he bought it but his car was totaled befor=
e he could get it installed).&nbsp; I had that top installed and it was a d=
ream to erect and fold the whole time I had it.&nbsp; I attribute that to t=
he fact that it wasn't stretchable when installed.<u class=3D"yiv0369424193=
"></u><u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u></span></div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv0369424193" style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"><u class=3D"yiv036942419=
3"></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u></span></div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv0369424193" style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">My advice is to get your=
 top installed when the weather is cold and the material is more resistant =
to stretching.&nbsp; The installer will pre-stretch the top less and it wil=
l work better in the long run.<u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u><u class=3D"yi=
v0369424193"></u></span></div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv0369424193" style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"><u class=3D"yiv036942419=
3"></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u></span></div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv0369424193" style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">Here's another anecdote:=
 I bought a tonneau for the TR3 which was, in my opinion, cut about 1 inch =
too short.&nbsp; I installed the Lift-A-Dot snaps as close to the edges as =
I could but still could only install it on a hot day in the sun.&nbsp; Sinc=
e this car lives mostly in the garage the tonneau is virtually permanently =
installed and over the years as the cover gets less stretchy it has become =
easier to install.&nbsp; I think the plasticizer has dissipated and the top=
 took a set in the stretched position.&nbsp; So, this raises a question: Wh=
at would happen if one slit some garden hose and placed it over the bows an=
d left the top up with a little extra stretch.&nbsp; After a while the top =
will take a set with extra slack, perhaps making it easier to put up.<u cla=
ss=3D"yiv0369424193"></u><u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u></span></div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv0369424193" style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"><u class=3D"yiv036942419=
3"></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u></span></div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv0369424193" style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">Or buy your top years be=
fore you install it.<u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u><u class=3D"yiv036942419=
3"></u></span></div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv0369424193" style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"><u class=3D"yiv036942419=
3"></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u></span></div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;"><span c=
lass=3D"yiv0369424193" style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Arial, sans-se=
rif;">Dave </span><span class=3D"yiv0369424193" style=3D"font-size:12pt;fon=
t-family:Arial, sans-serif;"><u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u><u class=3D"yiv=
0369424193"></u></span></div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv0369424193" style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"><u class=3D"yiv036942419=
3"></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u></span></div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv0369424193" style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"><u class=3D"yiv036942419=
3"></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u></span></div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193" id=3D"yiv0369424193gmail-m_3077276246423130986=
gmail-m_-4886593744213825898yiv8638386929yqtfd03937">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;"><span c=
lass=3D"yiv0369424193" style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-seri=
f;">-----Original Message-----<br class=3D"yiv0369424193" clear=3D"none">Fr=
om: Dave MacKay &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" =
class=3D"yiv0369424193" ymailto=3D"mailto:dave@mdmackay.ca"; target=3D"_blan=
k" href=3D"mailto:dave@mdmackay.ca";>dave@mdmackay.ca</a>&gt;<br class=3D"yi=
v0369424193" clear=3D"none">To: <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" sha=
pe=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv0369424193" ymailto=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.n=
et" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@auto=
x.team.net</a><br class=3D"yiv0369424193" clear=3D"none">Sent: Mon, Dec 28,=
 2020 4:41 pm<br class=3D"yiv0369424193" clear=3D"none">Subject: Re: [TR] N=
ew TR6 top<u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u><u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u></s=
pan></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193" id=3D"yiv0369424193gmail-m_3077276246423130986=
gmail-m_-4886593744213825898yiv8638386929">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv0369424193" style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">I, too, have had problem=
s with the Robbins tops although my car is a TR3A, not a TR6.<u class=3D"yi=
v0369424193"></u><u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u></span></div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv0369424193" style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<u class=3D"yiv036=
9424193"></u><u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u></span></div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv0369424193" style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">Like Bob with his TR6, m=
y tonneau (and also a convertible top) is so tight that I can only fit it w=
ith great effort even in warm sunny weather. The tonneau was installed by p=
rofessional installers who complained about the fit. Robbins was responsive=
 when I complained. I even sent my previous tonneau to them so they could s=
ee what fit, but the replacement they sent me after that was no better.<u c=
lass=3D"yiv0369424193"></u><u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u></span></div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv0369424193" style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<u class=3D"yiv036=
9424193"></u><u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u></span></div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv0369424193" style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">The top hasn=E2=80=99t s=
tretched or loosened over time. If anything, it may have shrunk because it =
seems as hard or harder than ever to put on.<u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u>=
<u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u></span></div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv0369424193" style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<u class=3D"yiv036=
9424193"></u><u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u></span></div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv0369424193" style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">I would suggest having t=
he top (tonneau or convertible) made by your installer so that you get a go=
od fit. That would have been cheaper for me than buying the Robbins tonneau=
 and having to pay for two installations.<u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u><u =
class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u></span></div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv0369424193" style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<u class=3D"yiv036=
9424193"></u><u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u></span></div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv0369424193" style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">As always, particularly =
since you=E2=80=99re dealing with a TR6 not a TR3A, YMMV<u class=3D"yiv0369=
424193"></u><u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u></span></div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv0369424193" style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<u class=3D"yiv036=
9424193"></u><u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u></span></div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0369424193">
<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv0369424193" style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">Good luck,<u class=3D"yi=
v0369424193"></u><u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u></span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv0369424193MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv0369424193" style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<u class=3D"yiv036=
9424193"></u><u class=3D"yiv0369424193"></u></span></div>
</div>

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=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"></span></div>
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