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Re: [TR] [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket

To: TR3 Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>, New England Triumphs <net@newenglandtriumphs.org>, David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>, Robert M Lang <blang@mit.edu>
Subject: Re: [TR] [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket
From: Frank Fisher <yellowtr3@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 18:14:51 +0000 (UTC)
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 i have seen a couple of gaskets recently where one was cork about 1/16" th=
ick the other being not much more than writing paper.i dont recall if it wa=
s my pan gasket.maybe thats the difference in these parts.


    On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 09:35:43 AM PDT, Robert M Lang <blang@mit.e=
du> wrote: =20
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 As a rule of thumb, I try to use the better brand gaskets when they are av=
ailable. I cannot speak to TR3 gaskets, but I find that the cheaper gaskets=
 sometimes need "fettling" to fit properly. I see this all the time with th=
e manifold gaskets for TR6 and there have been times when there was no choi=
ce available - just available. I chose "available" so I could drive the car=
. The cheaper gasket ate 2 hours of my labor to fit. The stud holes were of=
f by 1 / 8 inch, plus or minus. Ans one or two=C2=A0 holes were not the cor=
rect diameter.
That said, if you're like me, you buy the cheap one AND the expensive one a=
nd one winds up either as a spare or in the bin...
Good luck!

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From: NET <net-bounces@newenglandtriumphs.org> on behalf of David Friedland=
er via NET <net@newenglandtriumphs.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2023 3:22 PM
To: TR3 Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>; New England Triumphs <net@newen=
glandtriumphs.org>
Subject: [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket=C2=A0Greetings everyone ~
Opinion time:
Subject: Oil pan gaskets.

Without disparaging Moss, I note their 692-000 Payen gasket is $26.99=C2=A0=
while their stock gasket (695-000) is just $4.99. Is the Payen gasket TR3th=
at much better?? Worth the $$ difference?
Dave** triumphs@autox.team.net **

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        <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">i have seen a couple of gaskets 
recently where one was cork about 1/16" thick the other being not much more 
than writing paper.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">i dont recall if it 
was my pan gasket.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">maybe thats the 
difference in these parts.</div><div dir="ltr" 
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                    On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 09:35:43 AM PDT, Robert M Lang 
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As a rule of thumb, I try to use the better brand gaskets when they are 
available. I cannot speak to TR3 gaskets, but I find that the cheaper gaskets 
sometimes need "fettling" to fit properly. I see this all the time with the 
manifold gaskets for TR6 and there
 have been times when there was no choice available - just available. I chose 
"available" so I could drive the car. The cheaper gasket ate 2 hours of my 
labor to fit. The stud holes were off by 1 / 8 inch, plus or minus. Ans one or 
two&nbsp; holes were not the correct
 diameter.</div>
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That said, if you're like me, you buy the cheap one AND the expensive one and 
one winds up either as a spare or in the bin...</div>
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Greetings everyone ~</div>
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Opinion time:</div>
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Without disparaging Moss, I note their 692-000 Payen gasket is 
$26.99&nbsp;</div>
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while their stock gasket (695-000) is just $4.99. Is the Payen gasket TR3</div>
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that much better?? Worth the $$ difference?</div>
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