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Re: [TR] [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket

To: "'Robert M Lang'" <blang@mit.edu>, "'TR3 Triumphs'" <triumphs@autox.team.net>, "'New England Triumphs'" <net@newenglandtriumphs.org>, "'David Friedlander'" <forzion7@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket
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Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 16:43:46 -0600
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I am curious why Gasket Innovations is not in this discussion?  

 

A.R.E. Joe Alexander and the Alexander Racing Enterprises team have a wide 
range of silicone
reusable gaskets for many Triumphs, and IIRC, they were working on oil pan 
gaskets some time back.

 

Send them a note or call  https://gasketinnovations.com/contacts/

 

Glenn Merrell, CAP

StagByTriumph Garage

aka Stag-By-Triumph Garage (on FaceBook)

Remember, "the BEST trophies are: Miles on the Odometer; Stone chips in the 
paint; and DEAD BUGS on
the windscreen . with the occasional smell of manure!"

 

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Robert M Lang
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2023 4:40 PM
To: TR3 Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>; New England Triumphs 
<net@newenglandtriumphs.org>; David
Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket

 

As a rule of thumb, I try to use the better brand gaskets when they are 
available. I cannot speak to
TR3 gaskets, but I find that the cheaper gaskets sometimes need "fettling" to 
fit properly. I see
this all the time with the manifold gaskets for TR6 and there have been times 
when there was no
choice available - just available. I chose "available" so I could drive the 
car. The cheaper gasket
ate 2 hours of my labor to fit. The stud holes were off by 1 / 8 inch, plus or 
minus. Ans one or two
holes were not the correct diameter.

 

That said, if you're like me, you buy the cheap one AND the expensive one and 
one winds up either as
a spare or in the bin...

 

Good luck!

 

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Bob Lang             

                          Cell: 339-927-4489
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>
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2023 3:22 PM
Subject: [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket 

 

Greetings everyone ~

 

Opinion time:

 

Subject: Oil pan gaskets.

Without disparaging Moss, I note their 692-000 Payen gasket is $26.99 

while their stock gasket (695-000) is just $4.99. Is the Payen gasket TR3

that much better?? Worth the $$ difference?

 

Dave


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vlink=3Dpurple style=3D'word-wrap:break-word'><div =
class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>I am curious why Gasket =
Innovations is not in this discussion?&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>A.R.E. Joe =
Alexander and the Alexander Racing Enterprises team have a wide range of =
silicone reusable gaskets for many Triumphs, and IIRC, they were working =
on oil pan gaskets some time back.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Send them a =
note or call&nbsp; =
https://gasketinnovations.com/contacts/<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Glenn Merrell, CAP<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>StagByTriumph =
Garage<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>aka Stag-By-Triumph Garage (<i>on =
FaceBook</i>)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Remember, &#8220;the BEST trophies are: Miles on =
the Odometer; Stone chips in the paint; and DEAD BUGS on the windscreen =
&#8230; with the occasional smell of =
manure!&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs =
&lt;triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert M =
Lang<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 28, 2023 4:40 PM<br><b>To:</b> TR3 =
Triumphs &lt;triumphs@autox.team.net&gt;; New England Triumphs =
&lt;net@newenglandtriumphs.org&gt;; David Friedlander =
&lt;forzion7@gmail.com&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] [NET] Payen vs. =
Standard Oil Pan Gasket<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>As a rule of thumb, I try to use =
the better brand gaskets when they are available. I cannot speak to TR3 =
gaskets, but I find that the cheaper gaskets sometimes need =
&quot;fettling&quot; to fit properly. I see this all the time with the =
manifold gaskets for TR6 and there have been times when there was no =
choice available - just available. I chose &quot;available&quot; so I =
could drive the car. The cheaper gasket ate 2 hours of my labor to fit. =
The stud holes were off by 1 / 8 inch, plus or minus. Ans one or =
two&nbsp; holes were not the correct =
diameter.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>That said, if you're like me, you =
buy the cheap one AND the expensive one and one winds up either as a =
spare or in the bin...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Good =
luck!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div>=
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<br>Bob =
Lang&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>&n=
bsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Cell: =
339-927-4489<br>---------------------------------------------------------=
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iv></div><div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter =
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align=3Dcenter></div><div id=3DdivRplyFwdMsg><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'color:black'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'color:black'> NET &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:net-bounces@newenglandtriumphs.org";>net-bounces@newengland=
triumphs.org</a>&gt; on behalf of David Friedlander via NET &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:net@newenglandtriumphs.org";>net@newenglandtriumphs.org</a>=
&gt;<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 28, 2023 3:22 PM<br><b>To:</b> TR3 =
Triumphs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;; =
New England Triumphs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:net@newenglandtriumphs.org";>net@newenglandtriumphs.org</a>=
&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket</span> =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#000099'>Greetings everyone =
~<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#000099'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#000099'>Opinion time:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#000099'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#000099'>Subject: Oil pan gaskets.<br><br>Without =
disparaging Moss, I note their 692-000 Payen gasket is =
$26.99&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#000099'>while their stock gasket (695-000) is just $4.99. Is =
the Payen gasket TR3<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#000099'>that much better?? Worth the $$ =
difference?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#000099'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans =
MS";color:#000099'>Dave<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></bo=
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