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In a message dated 6/16/00 12:54:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
transmancat@bbnow.net writes:
<< OK another question and we can actually use the cherry tree axe. If we
agree
that a pedigree is what we are buying with the axe (documented evidence of
continual ownership) despite the fact that the head and handle have been
replaced. What happens if the real axe head turns up and it can be proven to
be THE axe head! There cannot be two of them, so who has the real one?
Over to you guys!
Regards
John J Black >>
Who has the real one? ....the one who screams the loudest and has the actual
vin number, of course! The others.. they get the ax!
Lee Raskin
Arnolt-B and 356er
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Subject: RE: Genuine car? rather long was RE: recognition forms
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 11:52:29 -0700
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Hi Guys
OK another question and we can actually use the cherry tree axe. If we agree
that a pedigree is what we are buying with the axe (documented evidence of
continual ownership) despite the fact that the head and handle have been
replaced. What happens if the real axe head turns up and it can be proven to
be THE axe head! There cannot be two of them, so who has the real one?
Over to you guys!
Regards
John J Black
Waterloo Drivetrain Systems
http://www.waterloo-dtr.com
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In a message dated 6/16/00 9:24:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
pat@prismacars.com writes:
<< If you buy a car and have a documented chain of ownership you have the
right
to claim the history.
Now if Abe sold six axes and gave six bills of sale, we could have a hell
of
a discussion about who had the ax he used to chop down the cherry tree.
Pat Ryan >>
Pat: I certainly agree with you with respect to a documented chain of
ownership to determine if there is a genuine car....but differ on your
analogy on the Abe Lincoln's ax story and the cherry tree.
Maybe in Alabama (aka the Heart of Dixie) ... the Southern version of the "
chopping down of the cherry tree" depicts Abe Lincoln in the staring
role...but I do believe that by the actual Yankee version....George
Washington.. he be the real ax man! That damn War between the
States....always seems to cloud history up a bit!
Good to see you again at VIR! Say "hey" to all my friends in Montgomery,
ya
hear?
Lee Raskin, Brooklandville, MD
Arnolt-Bristol and 356er and...a '67 University of Alabama Alumnus (Roll
Tide, Roll!)
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From: "Pat Ryan" <pat@prismacars.com>
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Subject: RE: Genuine car? rather long was RE: recognition forms
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 07:57:41 -0500
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Tombread@aol.com wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>This sounds like the old story about the fellow who said he had an axe
owned
>by Abe Lincoln. He proudly said of it, "The handle has been replaced 6
times
>and the head, 3 times, but it's the genuine article!"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Of course it was. If he bought it from Abe Lincoln.
But then would it still be Abe Lincoln's axe if he sold it?
Of course it would.
The difference between axes and race cars is the documentation. Cars
usually transfer on bills of sale or sometimes titles. Parts don't. If you
buy parts of a car and make a car so can someone else.
If you buy a car and have a documented chain of ownership you have the right
to claim the history.
Now if Abe sold six axes and gave six bills of sale, we could have a hell of
a discussion about who had the axe he used to chop down the cherry tree.
Pat Ryan
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