- 1. "Zero" Emissions Autos (score: 1)
- Author: "Scott Gardner" <gardner@lwcomm.com>
- Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:05:56 +0000
- I'd like to add my two cents' worth on the new electric cars. While I realize they have their faults (limited performance and range being the two biggest), they would be ideal for a second or third c
- /html/mgs/1997-02/msg00034.html (8,809 bytes)
- 2. Re: "Zero" Emissions Autos (score: 1)
- Author: Ross Overcash <jroverca@tiac.net>
- Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 07:27:54 -0500 (EST)
- plant, individual I pretty much agree. I still have some reservations, such as how long will the batteries hold a charge, the what ifs of being stuck in traffice etc, but all in all it is probably a
- /html/mgs/1997-02/msg00041.html (9,927 bytes)
- 3. Re: "Zero" Emissions Autos (score: 1)
- Author: "Mike Ellsworth" <mikeells@alpha.shianet.org>
- Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 08:39:34 -0500
- Along this line, now that the GM electric cars are being delivered, can someone comment on how or where you can get them recharged? I imagine you get a home charging unit with the car, but do they ha
- /html/mgs/1997-02/msg00042.html (10,134 bytes)
- 4. Re: "Zero" Emissions Autos (score: 1)
- Author: RJohn50603@aol.com
- Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 10:37:38 -0500 (EST)
- SNIP SNIP I remember attending a joint EPA / Industry seminar in the mid sevenities. The case study offered by one of the Industry representatives was about the major "clean-up" of a large plant (3M,
- /html/mgs/1997-02/msg00046.html (9,908 bytes)
- 5. Re: "Zero" Emissions Autos (score: 1)
- Author: pbailey <pbailey@qnet.com>
- Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 08:37:06 -0800
- The average person will not be able to afford a commuter only car with it's limited range and very high cost of maintenance($5000 for batteries)The solution to all the people driving around with "gro
- /html/mgs/1997-02/msg00049.html (9,470 bytes)
- 6. Re: "Zero" Emissions Autos (score: 1)
- Author: ninab@scoresheet.com (Nina Barton)
- Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 10:14:44 -0800
- The solution to all the people driving around with "gross Pat, this solution has merit, but if the politicians mandated certificates from licensed mechanics (like smog certificates), where would that
- /html/mgs/1997-02/msg00053.html (8,515 bytes)
- 7. Re: "Zero" Emissions Autos (score: 1)
- Author: hstaton@ilnk.com (Sam Staton)
- Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 16:22:24 -0500
- I'll toss my oar in on this one, too. I wouldn't be averse to using an electric car for commuting purposes, either. This past summer, I was fortunate enough to be able to 'drive' the new electric tha
- /html/mgs/1997-02/msg00062.html (9,683 bytes)
- 8. Re: "Zero" Emissions Autos (score: 1)
- Author: Bill Harkins <bharkins@tfb.com>
- Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 12:53:59 -0800
- They are great as golf carts! Electric car fans should check the history of the 1914 Baker Electric, "The Ladies Car". I seem to remember from my Floyd Clymer old auto ad books of 50 years ago that t
- /html/mgs/1997-02/msg00063.html (8,952 bytes)
- 9. Re: "Zero" Emissions Autos (score: 1)
- Author: Bill Harkins <bharkins@tfb.com>
- Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 13:14:46 -0800
- Does this strike of some kind of control?As I have said before the Another scenario - as the Chinese economy continues to boom into the 21st C, they are all going to want to get a set of wheels as th
- /html/mgs/1997-02/msg00064.html (9,236 bytes)
- 10. Re: "Zero" Emissions Autos (score: 1)
- Author: Bill Harkins <bharkins@tfb.com>
- Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 13:05:21 -0800
- I haven't seen any advertising for "volting up" the GM ENV car in CA. I have read that GM will NOT sell the car, but only lease it for about $600 per month. That's why I claim they will be used only
- /html/mgs/1997-02/msg00065.html (9,384 bytes)
- 11. "Zero" Emissions Autos (score: 1)
- Author: jurrasm@genesis.torrco.com (Mark Jurras)
- Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 08:48:18 -0500
- pollution... When you consider the "zero" emission car remember the emissions from the power plant AND the losses between the energy plant fuel and you cruising in your electric car. -The efficiency
- /html/mgs/1997-02/msg00084.html (9,371 bytes)
- 12. Re: "Zero" Emissions Autos (score: 1)
- Author: Ross MacPherson <arm@unix.infoserve.net>
- Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 07:09:51 -0800
- Mike, Here at least "The Great White North" is miles ahead of y'all. Every parking spot in Saskatchewan has a 120V receptacle. Recharging won't be a problem. ;) Cheers,eh! ___ \______ Ross MacPherson
- /html/mgs/1997-02/msg00085.html (9,293 bytes)
- 13. Re: "Zero" Emissions Autos (score: 1)
- Author: car@texas.net (Carol)
- Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:35:58 -0600 (CST)
- [snip] [snip] Call you paranoid?! I invented the word when it comes to the "state" getting involved in personal affairs!! OTOH, if the bureaucracy should implement such a tax for such a purpose, I'll
- /html/mgs/1997-02/msg00091.html (10,802 bytes)
- 14. Re: "Zero" Emissions Autos (score: 1)
- Author: "Scott Gardner" <gardner@lwcomm.com>
- Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:26:48 +0000
- <<SNIP>> Mark, I appreciate the copper losses coming from the station to my house, and the fact that the power plant produces pollution, but I still maintain that the conversion of fuel to electrici
- /html/mgs/1997-02/msg00105.html (10,426 bytes)
- 15. RE: "Zero" Emissions Autos (score: 1)
- Author: "John Miller" <mil76@msn.com>
- Date: Tue, 4 Feb 97 04:23:54 UT
- I saw a charging station at the new Ontario Mills mega-outlet mall about 30 miles east of LA. There were two or three "EV Only" parking spaces with hookups at the entrance to the mall, right next to
- /html/mgs/1997-02/msg00127.html (9,003 bytes)
- 16. Re: "Zero" Emissions Autos (score: 1)
- Author: Ross Overcash <jroverca@tiac.net>
- Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 05:11:39 -0500 (EST)
- Well put. We already have to pay a surcharge when we purchase a batterie(s) for disposal as we do for tires. Can you imagine what it will be like with all those electric cars running around? And we t
- /html/mgs/1997-02/msg00132.html (11,235 bytes)
- 17. Re: "Zero" Emissions Autos (score: 1)
- Author: jurrasm@genesis.torrco.com (Mark Jurras)
- Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 07:52:23 -0500
- I agree with all your points and I would love to drive an electric car on my 30 mile per day commute. I don't think the batteries would last that long on those below zero days if I want heat though.
- /html/mgs/1997-02/msg00136.html (9,170 bytes)
- 18. Re: "Zero" Emissions Autos (score: 1)
- Author: RJohn50603@aol.com
- Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 08:21:39 -0500 (EST)
- << be careful what you wish for, you might get it.... >> Yes, R. Johnson - Dallas '90 Maine Coon '79 Midget '76 Midget '73 MGB
- /html/mgs/1997-02/msg00137.html (7,988 bytes)
- 19. RE: "Zero" Emissions Autos (score: 1)
- Author: Eric Houkal <erictw@mcs.com>
- Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 07:25:55 -0600
- Not exactly. Since the power plant must produce enough power for any = deamand that may develop, a vast increase in EVs would produce a vast = increase in potential demand which the power plant would
- /html/mgs/1997-02/msg00138.html (8,911 bytes)
- 20. Re: "Zero" Emissions Autos (score: 1)
- Author: Ross MacPherson <arm@unix.infoserve.net>
- Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 22:39:33 -0800
- Mike, Here at least "The Great White North" is miles ahead of y'all. Every parking spot in Saskatchewan has a 120V receptacle. Recharging won't be a problem. ;) Cheers,eh! ___ \______ Ross MacPherson
- /html/mgs/1997-02/msg00180.html (8,343 bytes)
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