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1. [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may (score: 1): Author: "Deikis, John G" <John.Deikis@va.gov>; Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:05:24 -0400; I tried to post awhile back-when the thread started getting out of hand, but don't think I made it. I have a Phantom Grip on my vintage race car. Bill Perry told me it was essentially a "torque sensi; /html/spridgets/2007-06/msg01379.html (8,320 bytes)
2. Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may (score: 1): Author: derf <derf247@gmail.com>; Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 11:40:04 -0600; Go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_(mechanics) Look at the top right picture. Your Phantom grip applies pressure to the green gears in the pic, discouraging their rotation. This, in t; /html/spridgets/2007-06/msg01385.html (8,534 bytes)
3. Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may (score: 1): Author: Daniel1312@aol.com; Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:40:01 EDT; What Bill says is borne out by my own experience. The Phantom Grip device works like a Torsen diff NOT a clutch plate diff. What this means is that when one wheel trys to rotate faster than the other; /html/spridgets/2007-06/msg01392.html (9,709 bytes)
4. Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may (score: 1): Author: "David Lieb" <dbl@chicagolandmgclub.com>; Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:54:25 -0500; What I want to know is, if I break an axle, will the Phantom Grip allow me to limp home? _______________________________________________ Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.te; /html/spridgets/2007-06/msg01393.html (8,376 bytes)
5. Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may (score: 1): Author: "Deikis, John G" <John.Deikis@va.gov>; Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:01:28 -0400; Torsen? Gleason? Quaife? Are you trying to pick a fight?! ;-) Be that as it may, why would Bill say that if I lift the inside rear wheel in a turn, the Phantom Grip will no longer provide any benefi; /html/spridgets/2007-06/msg01394.html (10,411 bytes)
6. Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may (score: 1): Author: Robert Duquette <robertduquette@sympatico.ca>; Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:05:38 -0400; I'll probably get kicked off the list before the day's over, but what the hey!! I don't see why you couldn't limp home, if you wanted to, with or without a Phantom Grip. I'm not sure what good that w; /html/spridgets/2007-06/msg01395.html (8,780 bytes)
7. Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may (score: 1): Author: "David Riker" <davriker@digitalpath.net>; Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:14:16 -0700; I won't talk about what I don't know, but about what I do know. Chevrolet Trucks use a differential made by Eaton called a G80 Locker. They have a demonstration trailer with rollers on one side to si; /html/spridgets/2007-06/msg01396.html (10,289 bytes)
8. Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may (score: 1): Author: derf <derf247@gmail.com>; Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:23:51 -0600; It goes to the right because of the "Right Hand Rule" of physics, I think. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-hand_rule Isn't that also why NASCAR turns left? And propellers turn the way they turn?; /html/spridgets/2007-06/msg01397.html (10,126 bytes)
9. Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may (score: 1): Author: derf <derf247@gmail.com>; Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:33:20 -0600; The open diff will seek to turn the side with the least resistance. If one side is very easy to turn (broken axle) then it won't bother trying to turn the other. If you have a Phantom it will try to; /html/spridgets/2007-06/msg01398.html (9,104 bytes)
10. Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may (score: 1): Author: "David Lieb" <dbl@chicagolandmgclub.com>; Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:36:13 -0500; Well, I do know that without the PG, a vigorous launch tends to spin only the right rear tire; With the PG, I can smoke both rear tires simultaneously. _______________________________________________; /html/spridgets/2007-06/msg01399.html (8,953 bytes)
11. Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may (score: 1): Author: Daniel1312@aol.com; Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:38:58 EDT; When other 'person' tested the Phantom Grip for me and snapped a halfshaft in the process at the diff end I believe they were able to limp for a few miles. I guess the real question is how far is hom; /html/spridgets/2007-06/msg01400.html (9,293 bytes)
12. Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may (score: 1): Author: Daniel1312@aol.com; Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:40:19 EDT; The Quaife needs residual torque to work so I guess Bill is saying the same thing applies to the Phantom. _______________________________________________ Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive; /html/spridgets/2007-06/msg01401.html (9,366 bytes)
13. Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may (score: 1): Author: Daniel1312@aol.com; Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:42:52 EDT; That's true for the Quaife but the only time you get that generally is with an airborne wheel or a zero grip road surface. Most of the time in slippery conditions there is some grip however small so; /html/spridgets/2007-06/msg01402.html (9,423 bytes)
14. Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may (score: 1): Author: Daniel1312@aol.com; Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:50:55 EDT; You still don't get it. This is nothing to do with my opinion. The Torsen/Quaife/Phantom Grip does not switch power from one wheel to the other but locks both together. A clutch plate differential sw; /html/spridgets/2007-06/msg01403.html (10,689 bytes)
15. Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may (score: 1): Author: derf <derf247@gmail.com>; Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:14:46 -0600; First, I didn't say it was your opinion. I said you ardently stated. I don't understand the "switching" power from one wheel to the other in a clutch type diff. Please enlighten me on this. The clutc; /html/spridgets/2007-06/msg01405.html (9,653 bytes)
16. Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may (score: 1): Author: derf <derf247@gmail.com>; Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:43:14 -0600; Welded diffs, OK for racing but not best for street use, no? _______________________________________________ Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/sprid; /html/spridgets/2007-06/msg01407.html (8,935 bytes)
17. Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may (score: 1): Author: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad@gmail.com>; Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:03:51 -0500; I understand that the best way to accomplish a welded diff, is to pour melted lead on the gears to lock them. Then, you can apply heat to remove the lead at a later date, should you so require. Brad; /html/spridgets/2007-06/msg01409.html (9,358 bytes)
18. Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may (score: 1): Author: oldsaabguy <oldsaabguy@comcast.net>; Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:11:20 -0500; The rules of many racing groups do not allow a welded or limited slip diff. They do not, however, have any limitations on the size of the shims / washers / spacers that you can cram in between the ge; /html/spridgets/2007-06/msg01410.html (9,862 bytes)
19. Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may (score: 1): Author: "Deikis, John G" <John.Deikis@va.gov>; Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:17:56 -0400; I can tell you from Gingerman last May...a broken axle means you come into the paddock on a hook. device What I want to know is, if I break an axle, will the Phantom Grip allow me to limp home? _____; /html/spridgets/2007-06/msg01412.html (9,598 bytes)
20. Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may (score: 1): Author: Daniel1312@aol.com; Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:18:05 EDT; And if they have a Quaife or Phantom Grip and the tech officials use a set of rollers to check the diff is an 'open' diff it won't get detected - only a strip down will establish that. ______________; /html/spridgets/2007-06/msg01413.html (9,618 bytes)

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