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1. Re: Start Design (score: 1): Author: dg50@daimlerchrysler.com; Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 10:17:40 -0500; Here's the thing: I _like_ "drag race" starts. For me, the ideal start is a straight section for at least 5 car lengths. But AWD and launch control systems aside, I've discovered that nearly *all* st; /html/autox/2001-12/msg00330.html (8,449 bytes)
2. Re: Start Design (score: 1): Author: Kevin Stevens <Kevin_Stevens@pursued-with.net>; Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 09:35:17 -0800 (PST); I don't think we're talking about the same thing. I don't disagree that a turn immediately before the lights needs to be taken as aggressively as possible. However, that doesn't necessarily require l; /html/autox/2001-12/msg00345.html (8,324 bytes)
3. Re: Start Design (score: 1): Author: "Rocky Entriken" <rocky@tri.net>; Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 20:18:16 -0600; I recall Nationals North Course 1998, had a turn of more than 90 degrees before the lights. Most people were charging off the start and doing that first turn as if the clock were already running. Se; /html/autox/2001-12/msg00372.html (8,225 bytes)
4. Re: Start Design (score: 1): Author: "Patrick Washburn" <washburn@dwave.net>; Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 07:49:08 -0600; On the North course of this year's Nat's, I took a similar approach. (Sorry for those who could not run the North Course.) My CM Swift was not geared properly for a good launch on concrete,being gear; /html/autox/2001-12/msg00384.html (8,913 bytes)
5. Re: Start Design (score: 1): Author: dg50@daimlerchrysler.com; Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:18:23 -0500; Here's the way I approach Nartionals-style "turn at the start" starts. Pretend for a second that the entry to the start is preceeded by a long straight - that it's a "normal" corner. What would your; /html/autox/2001-12/msg00396.html (9,043 bytes)
6. Re: Start Design (score: 1): Author: "Patrick Washburn" <washburn@dwave.net>; Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:46:14 -0600; This is true of a simple turn-before-start type thing. What I have seen is a straight, maybe 30 or 40 feet long, and a tight chicane type turn. This design totally eliminates entrance speed as a fact; /html/autox/2001-12/msg00404.html (10,671 bytes)
7. Re: Start Design (score: 1): Author: "Patrick Washburn" <washburn@dwave.net>; Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:46:17 -0600; This is true of a simple turn-before-start type thing. What I have seen is a straight, maybe 30 or 40 feet long, and a tight chicane type turn. This design totally eliminates entrance speed as a fact; /html/autox/2001-12/msg00405.html (10,678 bytes)
8. Re: Start Design (score: 1): Author: "Rocky Entriken" <rocky@tri.net>; Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 01:55:54 -0600; IMHO, the fallacy in your reasoning lies in the fact that the clock is not running. This permits you to get away with things you could not afford if you were on the clock. Like a wider turn, or a slo; /html/autox/2001-12/msg00415.html (11,506 bytes)

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