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1. [FOT] Never be beaten by equipment (score: 1): Author: Gt6steve@aol.com; Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 11:28:14 EDT; I think the Hallett FOT exemplified what Kas means in his famous quote. Despite a lot of equipment trials, very few of us were actually beaten by our cars. There was some pretty inspired wrenching g; /html/fot/2006-04/msg00160.html (6,783 bytes)
2. [Fot] Never be beaten by equipment (score: 1): Author: Robert Blake <rblake36@yahoo.com>; Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 08:08:17 -0700 (PDT); Pops and I had a less than excellent weekend at TWS it would true to say that we were beaten by equipment, one of us physically. We just put a new engine in Dads #14. The second one since December. W; /html/fot/2012-09/msg00054.html (10,522 bytes)
3. Re: [Fot] Never be beaten by equipment (score: 1): Author: "MadMarx" <tr4racing@googlemail.com>; Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:23:35 +0200; I had the same trouble with Wiseco pistons. Maybe they expand a lot. I run as piston to wall clearance 0.13mm. At the current engine I try to install old liners in the same direction when they were i; /html/fot/2012-09/msg00055.html (12,310 bytes)
4. Re: [Fot] Never be beaten by equipment (score: 1): Author: Joe Alexander <n197tr4@cs.com>; Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 11:33:28 -0400 (EDT); Sorry to hear of these MECHANICAL MALADIES. BTW, it turned out that Jerry Barker's fuel supplies in his RV/Hauler trailer had lines switched from his genset to the race gas by an RV service center. H; /html/fot/2012-09/msg00056.html (12,767 bytes)
5. Re: [Fot] Never be beaten by equipment (score: 1): Author: "john hasty" <jhhasty@gdhs.com>; Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 11:38:07 -0400; We use JE pistons and rings with a clearance of 2.5 thou. Which I think is about 1/2 of a thou. Less than Chris uses. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 Ea; /html/fot/2012-09/msg00057.html (14,865 bytes)
6. Re: [Fot] Never be beaten by equipment (score: 1): Author: fubog1 <fubog1@aol.com>; Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 11:49:40 -0400 (EDT); 2.5 is not enough. As Chris has said, the wet-liner engines need more. I set them to at least 3 1/2 thou. Glen We use JE pistons and rings with a clearance of 2.5 thou. Which I think is about 1/2 of; /html/fot/2012-09/msg00058.html (15,743 bytes)
7. Re: [Fot] Never be beaten by equipment (score: 1): Author: fubog1 <fubog1@aol.com>; Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:16:05 -0400 (EDT); I'll try this again, my reply had too much text. The manufacturers will call out a recommended clearance, but that's all it is. The operating speed, temperatures, cooling systems etc all are variable; /html/fot/2012-09/msg00060.html (11,833 bytes)
8. Re: [Fot] Never be beaten by equipment (score: 1): Author: Bill Babcock <ponobill@gmail.com>; Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:29:19 -0700; Not to worry Mike, start off with the simple investment in Kas' books and READ THEM. It takes a lot less time than building an engine again. If you do that and follow the suggestions you'll have an e; /html/fot/2012-09/msg00061.html (14,061 bytes)
9. Re: [Fot] Never be beaten by equipment (score: 1): Author: Duncan Charlton <duncan.charlton54@gmail.com>; Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:16:24 -0500; Greg, Piers told me about the excitement. What a shock that must have been, and at a pretty fast part of the track, too (well before the turn-in point for turn 7, I hope? Kinda 100 mph-ish there...); /html/fot/2012-09/msg00063.html (14,368 bytes)
10. Re: [Fot] Never be beaten by equipment (score: 1): Author: John Styduhar <johnstydo@gmail.com>; Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:42:44 -0400; _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.tea; /html/fot/2012-09/msg00066.html (13,972 bytes)
11. Re: [Fot] Never be beaten by equipment (score: 1): Author: tr4racing@googlemail.com; Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:50:17 +0000; All maths are right. I run Mahle forged pistons. They are very fragile and light. About 380gr incl rings and wrist pin. They have long skirts Mahle suggested 0.06mm but I didn't dare that. Chris Gese; /html/fot/2012-09/msg00067.html (15,005 bytes)
12. Re: [Fot] Never be beaten by equipment (score: 1): Author: fubog1 <fubog1@aol.com>; Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:21:56 -0400 (EDT); The other point that should be mentioned is that these liners should be honed using a torque plate. They get out of shape once they are clamped down in place. FWIW I use JE pistons and set them at .0; /html/fot/2012-09/msg00070.html (12,468 bytes)
13. Re: [Fot] Never be beaten by equipment (score: 1): Author: tr4racing@googlemail.com; Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:25:59 +0000; We did a lot of testing with torque plate and we found NO difference with or without. Gesendet mit BlackBerry von Vodafone --Original Message-- From: fubog1 <fubog1@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16; /html/fot/2012-09/msg00071.html (13,354 bytes)
14. Re: [Fot] Never be beaten by equipment (score: 1): Author: fubog1 <fubog1@aol.com>; Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:45:10 -0400 (EDT); Well not to start a controversy, but I have one on the bench right now, torqued down and ready to go, and the mics don't lie. The liners tend to waist down around the lower register. Glen We did a lo; /html/fot/2012-09/msg00072.html (14,289 bytes)
15. Re: [Fot] Never be beaten by equipment (score: 1): Author: tr4racing@googlemail.com; Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:46:49 +0000; At what bore size? Gesendet mit BlackBerry von Vodafone Well not to start a controversy, but I have one on the bench right now, torqued down and ready to go, and the mics don't lie. The liners tend t; /html/fot/2012-09/msg00073.html (14,902 bytes)
16. Re: [Fot] Never be beaten by equipment (score: 1): Author: Robert Deanes <rfdeanes@gmail.com>; Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:56:27 -0400; I run about ..006 for my clearance with Wiesco pistons, they are popular in the marine industry and they have the same characteristics...or problems without the clearance..need more room, I also add; /html/fot/2012-09/msg00074.html (15,113 bytes)
17. Re: [Fot] Never be beaten by equipment (score: 1): Author: fubog1 <fubog1@aol.com>; Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:57:01 -0400 (EDT); 87mm (3.425). I usually use BFEs LA Sleeve liners, they are pretty stout compared to stock liners but still need a torque plate hone IMHO. Glen At what bore size? Gesendet mit BlackBerry von Vodafone; /html/fot/2012-09/msg00075.html (15,442 bytes)
18. Re: [Fot] Never be beaten by equipment (score: 1): Author: tr4racing@googlemail.com; Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:58:34 +0000; I use old liners and enlarge the to 88mm. Gesendet mit BlackBerry von Vodafone 87mm (3.425). I usually use BFEs LA Sleeve liners, they are pretty stout compared to stock liners but still need a torqu; /html/fot/2012-09/msg00076.html (16,078 bytes)
19. Re: [Fot] Never be beaten by equipment (score: 1): Author: toodamnfunky@comcast.net; Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 21:06:38 +0000 (UTC); In the past I've just honed them in the block with an oversized washer on a head stud to hold em down. If that's the wrong proceedure I'm still not to old to learn. On another note, I just spoke to C; /html/fot/2012-09/msg00077.html (14,895 bytes)
20. Re: [Fot] Never be beaten by equipment (score: 1): Author: tr4racing@googlemail.com; Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 21:09:52 +0000; I used molycote coating on my scuffed wisecos. The Pistons had shrinked and the coating had a thickness of about 0.3mm at maximum. Gesendet mit BlackBerry von Vodafone In the past I've just honed the; /html/fot/2012-09/msg00078.html (16,078 bytes)

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