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Re: Hardware vs. Software

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Subject: Re: Hardware vs. Software
From: Paul Foster <pfoster@gdi.net>
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 11:05:14 -0400
Mark J. Andy writes:

> 
> Howdy,

Howthehellareya,

> 
> On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, Paul Foster wrote:
> > That's EXACTLY what I am talking about. The idiot who came up with that
> > nonsense should be castrated. The PC should a home appliance not an
> > exercise that requires the average user to hire an electronics
> > technician to properly install a modem.
> 
> So you're telling me that someone that's comfortable working on a modern
> car can't handle 4 screws and moving a jumper?  And that same person
> expects to be able to use a datalogging device to help them improve
> their
> driving?  Bull.  Here's a little clue about PC's and jumpers.  That
> jumper, on an older PC with an ISA bus, was pretty much the simplist and
> easiest way to do the job.  Witness the joy that "Plug and Play" was in
> the early days with ISA cards...  At least with a jumper you could
> make it work if you could think logically.  Trying to have the system
> think for you just made it so 20% of the time you couldn't get there
> from
> here.

And what happens when you can't find a spare IRQ because your system is
already loaded up? That sort of nonsense is Mickey Mouse beyond belief.
Apple proved the point in the mid 80s with the Mac. The PC has yet to
catch up and it never will until it sheds the antiquated hardware and
software that was it's roots. And a lot of the perpetuation of these
problems is due to people thinking it isn't that big of a deal. Just try
to install NT on an older Gateway box and get back to me about how
simple the PC is to configure.

> 
> > Error filled channels which just like it's predecessor the g*Analyst
> > manage to overcome the pitch and roll induced errors to provide accurate
> > information at a very low cost.
> ...
> > Based on the knowledege of what was required for him to write the
> > software he has since I too had the same aspirations. I played around
> > with a g*Analyst for months and I could not get it to draw a reasonable
> > course map.
> 
> Have you ever looked at two runs side by side using Geez?  That course
> map
> isn't accurate at all.  Don't get me wrong, it provides a handy
> reference
> to help you locate areas of the course, but using it to compare lines or
> anything that requires much accuracy is a waste of time.  This isn't
> Byron's fault (I assume), its that the accelerometers have error like
> any
> other measuring device.  I wonder how much more accurate those maps
> would
> be if Byron had an independent measure of vehicle speed like the
> Edlebrock
> system apparenntly supplies?

The Edelbrock system can't even give you decent g readings. What makes
you think it can do anything anywhere near as compicated as drawing
course maps?

> 
> > I do too and my opinion is exactly the opposite of yours. And your> 
>description fo the
> Edelbrock product has only confirmed that while it
> > does provide more 'channels' it is very difficult to install and even
> > mroe difficult to get reasonable values from the most critical component
> > - at least to me - the accelerometers. YMMV.
> 
> And if it works best for you that's awesome!  Like a few people have
> said,
> _any_ of these systems is a huge help.  I do think you can perhaps tone
> down the "Geez is king, everything else sucks" attitude though.

For the record I do not own either product. I didn't like the tone of
DG's posting and perhaps I overreacted a bit. But so what? Ever hear of
free speech? Or are you someone else who needs a lesson where the
'delete' key is located?

Paul Foster

BTW, I really miss the 'old' Mark Sipe... ;-)

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