Putting too much power through the drivetrain, Kirk? :-) Watch those
Kirk Meline wrote:
> No harm meant. I was just doing some trash talking. If you say it is
> making that much power so be it. It is extremely hard to believe though. I
> really don't care if it is making 350 horsepower. It is an evil M3 anyway.
> Evil in the sense that a person can make mistakes and still get a great time
> in it. In my car one mistake adds seconds to the time or worse. By the
> way, my car's tranny died and will probably stay that way for awhile.
> Merry Christmas
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Ochi [mailto:email@example.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 2:12 PM
> To: Kirk Meline; firstname.lastname@example.org; email@example.com
> Subject: RE: M3 BHP?
> No, Kirk, that's the truth. Can't get that much extra power out of an M3
> without doing stuff that's not SP legal. Probably the highest power
> normally aspirated M3 that I've heard of had an engine built by TC Kline in
> it - he was putting out around 275-285 HP at the flywheel. Remember, this
> isn't the euro engine which puts out 321HP - the US model uses a bored and
> stroked motor out of the 325/328. So, it's pretty much tweaked as much as
> it can be from the factory. Common mods only get the 95 engine up to
> around 255-265hp, and do even worse with the 96+ 3.2L engine.
> Do some homework before you start calling people liars. Give TC Kline a
> call, or check out their website (http://www.tcklineracing.com. Or call
> Turner Motorsports (http://www.turnermotorsports.com) - there are even some
> dyno charts on their website. These are two of the top BMW tuners in the
> US - ask them how much power they can get out of a SP legal M3.
> Tell you what. If you think I'm lying, we'll put my car on a dyno. If
> it's making more than 270, I'll pay the dyno fee. If it isn't, you pay
> it. I'm sure Navid would be willing to do the same. I think you could
> even get Kit to do the same, too. Results to be posted in a public forum.
> At 01:25 PM 12/22/2000 -0800, Kirk Meline wrote:
> >Jim and Navid:
> >You guys must think that we are all stupid. All those changes just to get
> >few more horses. Give us all a break and just be honest. You already win
> >ESP outright. There is no need to be outright dishonest.
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Jim Ochi [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
> >Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 12:30 PM
> >To: Barry Spencer; email@example.com; firstname.lastname@example.org
> >Subject: RE: M3 BHP?
> >I keep telling Navid that putting a Midas muffler on his M3 doesn't count
> >as a performance mod no matter how large of a tip he puts on it, but he
> >just doesn't listen! Taping magnets onto his throttle body doesn't add
> >anything, nor does putting on all those stickers...
> >Anyway, I believe it's 240 at the flywheel, something like 205 at the rear
> >wheels stock. Common mods on a 95 (intake, chip, air flow meter, exhaust)
> >get you to around 265 at the flywheel, 225 at the rear wheels...
> >At 12:25 PM 12/22/2000 -0800, Barry Spencer wrote:
> > >How come you lose 15 after mods?.
> > >
> > >At 12:00 PM 12/22/00 -0800, Navid Kahangi wrote:
> > > >Not enough! 240 stock, 225 after mods. :)
> > > >
> > > >--Navid
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: email@example.com
> > > > > [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]On Behalf Of Barry Spencer
> > > > > Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 11:40 AM
> > > > > To: email@example.com
> > > > > Subject: M3 BHP?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > To all,
> > > > > How much BHP does a 1995 BMW M3 have?.
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Barry