paul,
i was working when you were running, and you really stood out in looking
smooth, fast and aggressive. the car looked awesome on that bigger course.
why you were didnt do better in the results im not sure, unless there was a
spot later in the course where they broasted you.
james
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tibbals, Paul" <PHT1@pge.com>
To: "Autox (E-mail)" <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 4:25 PM
Subject: Atwater results
> Charlie, then John, said:
> The Civic is still a good Regional car, though when there is lots of "flat
> on the floor" time, it just doesn't have the power needed to win... "
>
> - -------------------- End Original Message --------------------
>
> I believe that message applies to lots of us with small displacement
> engines. The real question is: Are you, Mr. SEB member, going to do
> anything about it?
>
> The situation at Castle threw SCCA's car classifications into a cocked
hat,
> to put it politely.
>
> - --John Kelly
> I guess Situation = Course + Weather? Obviously the course had an effect.
Charlie told me that his Civic was extremely disadvantaged (my paraphrase)
by the course at Nationals last year. I feel disadvantaged by every course
with multiple tight slaloms, 270 degree turnarounds, and 20 MPH corners.
>
> When you look at the overall results from Round 10 (not that these are
important in the Regional standings) there's perhaps more distortion
_between_ classes due to the variable weather, than there was movement
within the class due to the course. This former effect occurs at any event
that doesn't have uniform weather. What we see at Atwater is that STX/STS
don't even show up in the PAX until past the 25th percentile, when at SFR
events those drivers are often bunched from 2 to 25th percentile of the
field. Much of that has to be attributed to the first two run groups being
done in the rain.
>
> I totally respect you guys' opinions. OTOH, Charlie managed to run away
with the STS trophy last season. I have a big wide STS car, so the Atwater
course was theoretically closer to my ideal. What came in ahead of me?
Protege', Civic, RSX, Civic, Civic, Protege', Civic, SE-R, Esteem (eeeek!
Nice drive, BTW!), Civic. From my perspective, the 6 cylinder sedans just
moved back a couple of places. So even at the Tour, all that happened was
that I managed to squeak past Jeffrey, and that was in the "low horsepower"
regime of Saturday's rain.
>
> So how does that mean that the car classifications were invalidated by the
situation? Sounds like much fury signifying little, to me. Your comments
welcomed as always!
>
> PaulT
> (p.s. when responding, unless you have a very personal =8-o message, I'd
prefer that responses just go to the list, thanks.)
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