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Re: Atwater some more

To: Pat Kelly <lollipop487@attbi.com>, James Creasy
Subject: Re: Atwater some more
From: "Pat Kelly" <lollipop487@attbi.com>
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 20:29:55 -0700
I meant the same Saturday course.
--Pat K

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>From: "Pat Kelly" <lollipop487@attbi.com>
>To: James Creasy <james@thevenom.net>, smokerbros@aol.com,
ba-autox@autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: Atwater some more
>Date: Wed, May 12, 2004, 8:22 PM
>

> Thanks, I thought I was going slightly balmy (no comments, please!) I do
> know Sunday's course had much more going on (things to do) on that leg in
> the reverse direction, especially back in that far corner.
> So I guess we didn't all drive the same course?
> --Pat K
>
> ----------
>>From: "James Creasy" <james@thevenom.net>
>>To: "Pat Kelly" <lollipop487@attbi.com>, <Smokerbros@aol.com>,
> <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
>>Subject: Re: Atwater some more
>>Date: Mon, May 12, 2003, 8:13 PM
>>
>
>>>Is it my imagination, or did the first leg get straightened
>>> somewhat during the morning rain?
>>
>> i believe thats what andy was saying.  one of the cones in the Ess after the
>> starting straight got moved to make it much faster than it was in the first
>> groups.  there was no way what i walked and what i drove were the same
>> course there.
>>
>> james
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Pat Kelly" <lollipop487@attbi.com>
>> To: <Smokerbros@aol.com>; <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 7:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: Atwater some more
>>
>>
>>> Just curious about Saturday's course. Unfortunately, I only had time to
>> walk
>>> it once. Is it my imagination, or did the first leg get straightened
>>> somewhat during the morning rain?
>>> --Pat Kelly
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> >From: Smokerbros@aol.com
>>> >To: ba-autox@autox.team.net
>>> >Subject: Re: Atwater some more
>>> >Date: Mon, May 12, 2003, 7:50 PM
>>> >
>>>
>>> > In a message dated 5/12/03 3:51:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>> PHT1@pge.com
>>> > writes:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> Anyway there's a long pro/con discussion of there being a "Certificate
>> in
>>> >> Course Design" which considers some of these issues in more depth.  It
>> WAS
>>> >> the fastest I have gone on an auto-x course as I mentioned, so exceeded
>>> >> slightly the guidelines mentioned in the Pylon articles.  There was a
>> ton
>>> >> of run-off room though.
>>> >
>>> > First, there will be no "Course designer certification."  This adds
>>> > complication to the process of putting on events.
>>> >
>>> > Second, Tour course designer Frank Stagnaro would have already been
>>> > certified, and his course was passed by the National Office.
>>> >
>>> > Charlie

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