There are some really interesting dynamics that take place about the end of
set-up. Not just at the Tour but on lots of mornings. In theory someone
designs the course, a bunch of people help rough out the cones and the
designer finishes/ fine tunes it, safety inspects it and then it gets
marked and lined. In practice there are people who feel it is within their
purview to walk course late in the process and "adjust" almost any aspect
of courses even after it has been approved for safety. I personally suspect
that this happened on Sat. morning at the Tour as Bryan, Chris and I walked
and discussed that section together. At the run group three walk the course
was clearly less restricted than it had been Friday night and earlier in the
morning BUT the cones were placed within grease pencil markings. Exactly
when it changed I can not say. That it was changed I can attest to.I think
we might have all driven the same course, but some folks may have had a
better idea what to expect on their first pass.
MJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat Kelly" <lollipop487@attbi.com>
To: "James Creasy" <james@thevenom.net>; <smokerbros@aol.com>;
<ba-autox@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 20:22 PM
Subject: Re: Atwater some more
> Thanks, I thought I was going slightly balmy (no comments, please!) I do
> know Sunday's course had much more going on (things to do) on that leg in
> the reverse direction, especially back in that far corner.
> So I guess we didn't all drive the same course?
> --Pat K
>
> ----------
> >From: "James Creasy" <james@thevenom.net>
> >To: "Pat Kelly" <lollipop487@attbi.com>, <Smokerbros@aol.com>,
> <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> >Subject: Re: Atwater some more
> >Date: Mon, May 12, 2003, 8:13 PM
> >
>
> >>Is it my imagination, or did the first leg get straightened
> >> somewhat during the morning rain?
> >
> > i believe thats what andy was saying. one of the cones in the Ess after
the
> > starting straight got moved to make it much faster than it was in the
first
> > groups. there was no way what i walked and what i drove were the same
> > course there.
> >
> > james
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Pat Kelly" <lollipop487@attbi.com>
> > To: <Smokerbros@aol.com>; <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 7:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: Atwater some more
> >
> >
> >> Just curious about Saturday's course. Unfortunately, I only had time to
> > walk
> >> it once. Is it my imagination, or did the first leg get straightened
> >> somewhat during the morning rain?
> >> --Pat Kelly
> >>
> >> ----------
> >> >From: Smokerbros@aol.com
> >> >To: ba-autox@autox.team.net
> >> >Subject: Re: Atwater some more
> >> >Date: Mon, May 12, 2003, 7:50 PM
> >> >
> >>
> >> > In a message dated 5/12/03 3:51:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> > PHT1@pge.com
> >> > writes:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Anyway there's a long pro/con discussion of there being a
"Certificate
> > in
> >> >> Course Design" which considers some of these issues in more depth.
It
> > WAS
> >> >> the fastest I have gone on an auto-x course as I mentioned, so
exceeded
> >> >> slightly the guidelines mentioned in the Pylon articles. There was
a
> > ton
> >> >> of run-off room though.
> >> >
> >> > First, there will be no "Course designer certification." This adds
> >> > complication to the process of putting on events.
> >> >
> >> > Second, Tour course designer Frank Stagnaro would have already been
> >> > certified, and his course was passed by the National Office.
> >> >
> >> > Charlie
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