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To: lotus-cars@lists.best.com, "Tony Clark" <lotus.tony@airmail.net>
Subject: Re[2]: F1 4WD
From: rebean@CCGATE.HAC.COM
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 97 06:49:33 PST8
     Ah thanks Tony!
     
     And of course, this brushes against that old "purpose of F1" arguement 
     where it's technology of the "highest tech" vs. drivers of the highest 
     skill and how to balance the two with the rules.
     
     More directly to the original point though, driveability of the car is 
     only an issue to somebody who goes to the limits.  Below that level, 
     the technology (tires, calibrated suspension bushings... whatever 
     gives lots of pure grip) is welcome magic.  Are you listening, Steve?  
     ;-)
     
     Rod


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Subject: Re: F1 4WD
Author:  "Tony  Clark" <lotus.tony@airmail.net> at CCGATE
Date:    12/14/97 2:33 PM


Carl Dreher (world's prettiest Europa) wrote:
     
> Four wheel drive was banned many years ago... late 60's or 
early 70's, I
> think.  It was too good and that meant many of the teams 
would not have the
> technology (and $$) to compete.  So it was banned to keep 
the competition
> even.
     
Doug Nye, in his 1978 book on the F1 and Indy Lotus cars, 
details the experience with the Lotus 63, the 4WD F1 car. 
Here are the pertinent quotes:
     
#1 "Our Indy 4 wheel drive experience was good, <snip> and 
since we had all the bits we thought, OK, we'll have a go. 
At the time, tyres were relatively lousy, we didn't have much 
download and we had a problem handling 3-liter power, so 
putting it down through all four wheels seemed to be the way 
to go."
     
The Lotus 63 was built and driven by Andretti, Miles and 
Rindt in '69 with Rindt scoring the only decent finish, a 
second at Oulton Park.
     
#2         "When we started putting a lot of torque through 4 
wheel drive we were in trouble because the driver couldn't 
balance the car properly.  With two driven wheels on the back 
he could balance the car with steering against throttle, but 
with four wheel drive every time he went off and on the 
throttle he affected the corner of both ends simultaneously. 
With torque split fixed front to rear, there was only one 
precise speed at which he could go through the corners 
tidily.  If he lifted off, he reduced cornering power of his 
tyres and flew off the road - and if he stood on the throttle 
he reduced the cornering power of his   tyres and also flew 
off the road!   It limited his options."
     
The drivers were happiest with the torque split feeding all 
the power to the rear wheels . . .might as well drive the 2 
wheel drive 49, it was loads lighter.
     
Both quotes were those of Colin Chapman who also summed up 
his attitude with:  "the real trouble with four-wheel drive 
was that the first time the driver got near the limit he 
terrified himself so much he never went near it again!"
     
Tony
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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