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To: "Phil Ethier" <pethier@isd.net>, "Erik V. Berg" <erikb@elrond.sp.TRW.COM>
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From: Rod Bean <rodbean@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 98 13:26:49 -0700
>Subject:     Re: 
>Sent:        10/31/98 8:17 PM
>Received:    11/9/98 1:13 PM
>From:        Phil Ethier, pethier@isd.net
>To:          Rod Bean, rodbean@ix.netcom.com
>             Erik V. Berg, erikb@elrond.sp.TRW.COM
>CC:          lotus-cars@lists1.best.com
>             chapman-era@autox.team.net
>
>From: Rod Bean <rodbean@ix.netcom.com>
>
>>I do see Phil's point though about the totally different philosophies
>>between fwd and rwd required to get the cars around the turn on slippery
>>surfaces.  The reason I think the definition of a drift is stretched a
>>bit for what the Saab is doing is that the rear is where it is only
>>temporarily, because of the use of momentum on entry.  If the turn would
>>be long enough, this effect would dissipate, leaving no drift and pure
>>understeer.
>
>Nope.  The attitude is held throughout.  The rear will not start tracking
>again until the car is on the straight.
>
>Ever been ice racing?  The clawing effect of the studs in ice is more
>powerful than the resistance to sideways motion of an unpowered wheel.  The
>SAAB can keep that attitude all the way though the corner.  It is for this
>reason that running this high angle on the driven wheels is the fast way
>around.
>
>IF you were correct that the rear of the SAAB would eventually stop drifting
>and start tracking, THEN the fast way around an ice-racing course on studs
>would be to attempt to be tracking.  This is demonstrably not true.  There
>is a simple word to describe any driver who attempts to keep the car
>tracking:  Last.


Phil,

Well, I've never tried ice racing so I certainly accept your description. 
 It sounds like we in the warmer climates are really missing something!  
I'd love to try it sometime.

Rod

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