Rod,
Great thoughts! Exactly mine!
Long live the open minds,
Ron
RB wrote:
> Good for Alan. He's got a point. observers would be likely to get a
> negative impression.
>
> The real problem IMO, and this is the difficulty with almost any discussion
> on the lotus-cars list, is that twenty years ago, Lotus people all had a lot
> in common with respect to their automotive ideals. Now, because cars
> carrying Lotus badges are so diverse, so are the enthusiasts. We can no
> longer count on our little inside jokes about Lotus cars, British cars, UK
> cottage industry quirks, etc. being universally understood or appreciated
> among this broad group of Lotus enthusiasts. Many of those Esprit people
> take the "luxury" aspect of their cars verrrry seriously. The idea of there
> being a close family relationship to kit cars (a dirty word) sends some of
> them into uncontrollable shivers (remember Tony?).
>
> And that's before "fwd" and "Lotus" find themselves in the same sentence.
> That is the double booster rocket that really fragments Lotus enthusiasts.
>
> On the other hand, camaraderie with people who like Chapman era Lotuses,
> Ginettas, TVRs, Elvas, ..even Morgans, is delightful because we seem to have
> many basic interests in common.
>
> That's why I like the lotus-elan, Elite and chapman-era lists. If I still
> had a Europa, I'd also lurk on that list too. The more specific lists, I
> believe, are where the original Lotus enthusiasts have gone.
>
> Rod
>
> Elton Clark wrote:
>
> > This forwarded from the Lotus List: It's more nearly a strong suggestion
> > from Alan that the M100 debate be ended on the list. . . I can live with
> > that!
> > :->
> > Tony_______________________@Sherman.Texas
> >
> > From: Alan Perry <esprit@best.com>
> > webmaster
> > To: <lotus-cars@lists.best.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 6:35 PM
> > Subject: Administrivia: Highly spirited discussion
> >
> > >
> > > I really don't like to do this, because I think this list should be
> > > self-policing, however ...
> > >
> > > Could the people discussing the pluses and minuses of the M100 Elan
> > > please redirect your energies into something more constructive? I
> > > think the discussion has reached the point of being a religious
> > > issue with no one likely to be converted.
> > >
> > > I will presume that you guys are just trying to get a response from
> > > each other, but some folks may take it more seriously. So, let's
> > > just agree to disagree and move on to some things that could use
> > > some discussion ...
> > >
> > > Like why Lotus Cars seems so incapable of making any kind of decision
> > > (and then sticking to it) with regards to the US market.
> > >
> > > alan perry
> > > your mailing list slave
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