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To: datsunmike@nyc.rr.com,
Subject: Easter 2002
From: David & Candy Pina <casalp@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 22:50:22 -0800
A simple " lets keep religious discussions off the list would have sufficed.


"..but the above comment left
me no other choice."

 And take responsibility for your actions, no one made you respond 
except you. I choose to respond to your letter and will post no other 
religious comments to the list. I will try to respond to any and all 
private emails. 

"I have friends of all faiths and races and I accept all
people as they are and "what" they are. I may not like everyone but I never
held it against anyone who was different than me."....I heard that bullshit 
when I was a kid 

 No ones beliefs or religion was attacked, except by you.  Only  a brief 
description of what each religions' mainstream view of Jesus is, and his 
personal view of what "born again" means to him.

 "the Jews do not accept Jesus as the Messiah. Jesus died a
Jewish Rabbi and that's it as far as we are concerned"

Are you speaking for all of Judaism? There are Jews who believe Jesus is 
the fulfillment of the Messianic covenant, they are called Messianic 
Jews, Jews for Jesus for example. However, mainstream Judaism does not 
accept Jesus as their Messiah, as predicted in the Old Testament.

 The professor held a Ph.D. in archeology and received
his degree at John Hopkins University (at the time the most eminent school
of archeology), and he studied with some of the greatest Biblical
Archeologists of his time. He admitted that there is no proof of the New
Testament. He is also a Priest.

Just what do you mean by that? Did he say that archeology disproved the 
New Testament? I have a hard time believing someone who can sum up the 
entire 2000 year + religious debates of the three great world religions 
by saying, "I took three classes at John Hopkins University once and..." 
Think you can see what I mean? Want to read something interesting? Read 
Josh MacDowell's Evidence that Demands a Verdict.  

 The men at the last supper were his fellow Rabbis, a very religious 
conservative sect of Judaism. The followers who started believing Jesus was the 
Messiah were not born when
he was alive. It is estimated that John and the rest were born 70ACE and the
New Testament was written well after 100 ACE. The earliest known copy of the
New Testament is in Greek. 

Jesus disciples were not conservative rabbis that holed up in the hills. 
Jesus traveled around the countryside, visited several cities, crossed 
lakes, went  into the desert.   If anything, they, the men at the last 
supper, were radically different from the teachers of the time and were 
hated by a large part of the rabbis, especially the Pharisees. They 
included the writer of a large portion of the New Testament, Paul. What 
were the charges against Him that brought Him to the cross? Many take 
the Bible to be honest to itself when it says Jesus called "Simon, also 
called Peter and his brother ,Andrew, fishermen". and Matthew, a tax 
collector to be His disciples. Paul ,who incidentally was not at the 
Last Supper , was the only Jewish Rabbi,  and in fact was persecuting 
new Christians during Jesus lifetime and immediately after Jesus' 
crucifixion, for a short while.

I don't understand. The men who ate the Last Supper with Him, didn't 
know and follow His teachings for 100 years? I didn't know people lived 
to be over 110 yrs old then. Doubting Thomas, one of the dinner 
participants, called Jesus My Lord and My God, which was blaspheme for a 
Rabbi.  Didn't you check up on the professors teaching by reading what 
the  Bible itself says? By the way, it is believed Paul was bilingual 
and wrote his letters in Greek.

 "so that a hypocrite like me could have life and hope."

Self effacing, honest, and still hopeful. Hmmm.
David Pina

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