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Re: "Were Raced"?and Vintage Racing

To: Greg Solow <Gregmogdoc@surfnetusa.com>
Subject: Re: "Were Raced"?and Vintage Racing
From: Ted Schumacher <tedtsimx@q1.net>
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 07:38:57 -0400
Greg Solow wrote:
> 
> I believe that part of the essence of  "Vintage Racing "  is the
> preservation of historically significant cars.  It should also be for the
> preservation of any real race cars from the era that we want to designate as
> significant.
> So if you can show that a car was really raced in a certain form with a real
> sanctioning body, then I would say that it would be fair to race it that
> way.  Fender flairs certainly change the appearance of a car.  Whether they
> improve or detract may be a matter of personal opinion, but I don't think
> that they alone are going to make a significant  diference in a cars
> performnance. What bothers me are Dry sumped engines, oversize valves,
> oversize carburators (like MG-Bs with 2 inch  SU carbs, they should run the
> 1 3/4  inch carbs that were optional in the mid 60's), oversize engines,
> super lowered suspensions, altered suspension pickup points and radically
> altered geometry.  Also non original transmissions, like datsun 5 speeds in
> so called "sprites".
> 
> Regards, Greg Solow
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: R. John Lye <rjl6n@server1.mail.virginia.edu>
> To: <fot@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 6:56 AM
> Subject: Re: "Were Raced"?and Vintage Racing
> 
> > At 08:21 AM 9/23/99 -0500, Jack W Drews wrote:
> > >Thanks for the breath of fresh air. My car is almost 1967 legal and
> > >I'm proud of it.
> >
> > <snip>
> > >> Greg Solow (or was it Stewart) wrote:
> > >>     My personal preference would be for the SCCA rules in force in the
> 1967
> > >> GCR be used as a guideline for car preparation.
> >
> > I'm no longer involved with vintage racing, so maybe my opinion
> > doesn't really matter.  However, I do have a bit of a problem with
> > this simple solution - and that is during that time frame, the SCCA
> > wasn't the only game in town.  There were several non-SCCA race series,
> > especially in California I am told, that used slightly different
> > preparation rules.  So, insisting on 1967 SCCA legality is actually
> > re-writing history by dis-allowing some "correct" vintage cars.
> > For example, my TR-4 has steel flares that, according to the story
> > told by a previous owner, were installed on the car in 1965 and it
> > was raced that way in non-SCCA races in California.  The stricter
> > vintage clubs would make me take those flares off the car, even though
> > they are, in fact, historically correct for that car in that time frame.
> >
> > Any comments?
> >
> > John Lye
> >
> > '59 TR-3A, '62 TR-4, '70 GT-6+
> > email: rjl6n@virginia.edu
> > homepage:  http://avery.med.virginia.edu/~rjl6n/homepage.htm
> >
this has been a great dixusion.  what we all need to remember is not
that many cars were raced in the time period most groups use as a
shutoff point.  if all vintage race events were limited to cars that had
actually been raced at a given time period, there would be SMALL fields
and 1 or 2 car classes.  vintage events by the major sanctioning bodies
such as hsr, svra, etc are for profit events.  they have only a passing
interest in "love of the sport". without large fields, no revenues. no
revenues = fewer events and so on. also, there is obviusly a fairly
large cottage industry that has sprung up in the vintage race market. 
service groups, parts suppliers, etc.  point is without thecars that
have been "built" to be vintage racers, this form of motorsports would
be relegated back to a sport for the few. ted
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