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RE: Suspension Thoughts

To: "'Bill Bartlett'" <billbartlett@homerebuilders.com>,
Subject: RE: Suspension Thoughts
From: Bill Babcock <BillB@bnj.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 08:57:15 -0800
I just downloaded their demo and I'll take a look at it. Susprog3D is a
full system also--from looking at the website I suspect that Susprog3D is
actually more comprehensive. But that's not necessarily a good thing. I'm
not trying to design a new car, I'm trying to fix some nasty habits of an
old one.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Bartlett [mailto:billbartlett@homerebuilders.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 7:47 AM
To: Bill Babcock; David Wingett
Cc: Friend Of Triumph
Subject: RE: Suspension Thoughts


Did you consider the suspension software from www.performancetrends.com ?
They have 3 d software that will analyze the front and rear together so
that we can get better roll center analysis etc....

Bill B

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Babcock [mailto:BillB@bnj.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 2:11 AM
To: 'David Wingett'
Cc: Friend Of Triumph
Subject: RE: Suspension Thoughts

Interesting. Might take us to the very outer fringes of the rulebook, but
interesting.

I have both Front Suspension Geometry Pro from www.auto-ware.com
<http://www.auto-ware.com>  and SuspProg 3D. Susprog3D is far more
sophisticated, but more difficult to build a model from. FSGP is a little
too simple, but works okay and it's cheap. I'm playing around in FSGP and
doing the serious work in SusProg.


-----Original Message-----
From: David Wingett [mailto:elkhorn@core.com]
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 4:52 PM
To: Bill Babcock
Cc: Friend Of Triumph
Subject: Suspension Thoughts



Bill
    Do I remember you saying that you have the new 3D susp. program?  I
have been giving it some serious thought myself.  Will it do the things
you expected? 
    I also use Aurora rod ends instead of bushings on the upper "A" arms.
Great for adjusting camber & caster.
    Concerning the front trunnion.   I have a set of uprights in the shop
now having them checked out.  My thought is this.  Don't use the
trunnion!!  I can turn the threaded bottom down to  3/4" and thread it for
a 3/4 x16 crown nut. Now we can make lower arms with Aurora rod endsin
place of the trunnion.  Hoerr Racing, Coleman, Howe, Port City...There are
a lot of shops that can build safe lower "A" arm to any length needed.
That's the trick, having the program to do the geometry.
    Your thoughts?
        David Wingett

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