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To: vinttr4@geneseo.net, BillDentin@aol.com, fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [FOT] Total Seal Rings
From: chasgee@aol.com
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:58:54 -0400
Total Seal rings....never heard of them :).
 
Chuck
Spitfire Racer 
 
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From: Jack W. Drews <vinttr4@geneseo.net>
To: BillDentin@aol.com; fot@autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 09:46:45 -0500
Subject: Re: [FOT] Total Seal Rings


I've been really interested in the answers you got on this one. 
 
I have used Grant, Hastings, Deves, and Total Seal. I have asked three 
different machine shops about their results. Two of them said that they had run 
back-to-back engine dyno runs and had not seen a change in hp, but that has to 
be taken with a grain of salt, because I don't know how carefully they 
controlled the other variables. One other shop I said that I would not see a hp 
increase but the Total Seals would last longer, based on their experiences with 
circle track racers. They claimed that the rings would maintain a good seal for 
a longer period of time. 
 
Like the above observations, if you look this subject up on the internet, you 
get lots and lots of opinions but no data. 
 
But, if you can wait awhile for an answer, I'll give you a real life test -- 
but you've got to promise not to laugh at this one. 
 
In my current engine, I have Total Seals in two cylinders, Deves in one, and 
Hastings in one. Last winter I built the engine with Total Seals. I had two 
engine failures in a row and had to build the engine in a big hurry. I had to 
put in two new liners and ring sets, and I used up broken sets that I had on 
the shelf. Since the engine had not been run any length of time with all Total 
Seals, I figure that the number of hours on all the rings is virtually the 
same. I've taken compression tests, and after this weekend will take a leakdown 
test, use it as a baseline, and chart leakdown after every event. 
 
Stay tuned, and remember, you promised not to laugh. 
 
 At 08:43 AM 6/15/2006, you wrote: 
>In a message dated 06/14/2006 9:34:10 PM Central Daylight Time, 
>oldskooling@yahoo.com writes: 
> 
> 
> > ^keep in mind a lot of these guys are drag race engine builders, but there 
> > are some pretty "big" names with decades of experience with this stuff 
> > posting the info. You can take it however you want... 
> > 
> 
>That figures. The machine shop we use (and who is suggesting this to our 
>mechanic, Kevin Potter) specializes in Drag Race engines (big in big block 
>Detroit stuff). They get a bang out of working on our stuff. 
> 
>Thanks for the comments. 
> 
>Bill Dentinger 
> 
> 
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