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Re: [Fot] TR4 Valve spring - pressure, assembled height, suppliers

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Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Valve spring - pressure, assembled height, suppliers
From: Joe Alexander <n197tr4@cs.com>
Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 18:46:23 -0400 (EDT)
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 Tim,

Pretty sure our assemblies are from BFE.



Joe Alexander
A. R. E.
645 1st Street
Jesup, Iowa 50648
319.464.4711  (cell)
n197tr4@cs.com





-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Janzen <sjanzen@me.com>
To: Tim Murphy <timmurph@fastbytes.com>
Cc: ryan.murphy <ryan.murphy@fdlco.wi.gov>; fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, May 8, 2012 5:38 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Valve spring - pressure, assembled height, suppliers


Try Isky- but you will need to know what spring pressure your cam maker
requires
at both open and closed positions.  For example, my GT6 cam requires a closed
pressure of 62 lb and an open pressure with 1.55 rockers of 185 lb.  My
machinist also tells me that the initial values of new springs will drop off
significantly after a few heat cycles.  I'm assuming Isky and others will sell
you springs that will "end up" at the range you want, rather than start out
there, if in fact this machinist is correct.

On May 8, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Tim Murphy wrote:

The machinist doing the work on our cylinder head tells me that we only have
about 70 pounds of pressure on the seats.  He thinks this is pretty low, in
his experience with other engines.  He also asked if I had the assembled
height of the springs, i.e. how much compression when assembled to the head.
He usually has this spec and shims the spring to obtain the specified
height.  Lastly, the alloy retainers are pretty beat up and the origin of
the springs are unknown and he thinks they look questionable.  Who are the
suppliers of valve springs, retainers, keepers and spring seat hardened
washers for racing purposes?



Thanks,



Tim and Ryan

1961 TR4 #317
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