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P.J is knowledgeable, smart and already has a good and reliable GT6.
He is capable of doing good things with these cars.
He has already made several mods to his car that were spot on.
The comments I have made were because I truly believe that he is ready to
race.
He built a 6 TR 250 years ago that was a racer already and (likely
regrettably) got rid of it.
he just needs a little encouragement and push to go the race car route with
a GT6.
>From what I know of him,
Be it track day or full on race car he is looking for something beyond what
he already has...
which obviously is joining our dark side.
Sure, he could buy a Gt6 racecar if he could find one.
But he is a tinkerer
and a guy that actually could build a good race car and already said he
knows it may take several years.
Take it slow and have fun with it P.J.
But there is no reason to build the same car you already have.
Something different,
Better and more useful for play.
for YOU, that is a demon that you can track day or eventually race.
Jason.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 5:44 PM, McKearn McKearn <mckearn2@gmail.com> wrote=
:
> I can tell you that I already have a GT6 with a good flexible power band
> and good reliability. It lacks quickness however, due in part to the TR6
> engine which is not highly tuned and I'm sure the gearing could be bette=
r
> (3.27 rearend-Toyota T50 trans.)( Good for the highway.) My old car is
> pretty much to the point where I don't want to do anything more to it so =
I
> want to move on to another project. This time I want to build a car that
> snorts . I do however need to put it on and off the trailer and I'm not
> thrilled about breaking parts with max. RPMs so I can't afford to go all
> out. I'm looking for quickness through the gears and good handling.
> P.J.
>
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Duncan Charlton <
> duncan.charlton54@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Larry=E2=80=99s comments make me wonder the precise intended purpose of =
the
>> engine mentioned by the original poster. =E2=80=9CTrack days=E2=80=9D m=
ight mean different
>> things to different people. Does P. J. want a good flexible power band,=
or
>> does he need an ultimate dyno horsepower figure? Does the motor have th=
e
>> gear set to be able to take advantage of an engine with very little low-=
end
>> torque? How high among his priorities is the ability to be able to drive
>> the car back on the trailer at the end of every track weekend? Lack of
>> sponsorship and cash prizes mean that I must find the setup that maximiz=
es
>> the fun/cost ratio.
>>
>> Duncan
>>
>>
>> > On Oct 31, 2015, at 1:34 PM, Larry Young <cartravel@pobox.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > That is an interesting article, but only speaks to one side of the
>> issue. I always say that you want to pick an intake duration for an RPM
>> range that you're willing and able to turn. We all know what happens to =
a
>> stock TR4 crank which sees >6,000 on a regular basis. Some guys want a =
cam
>> good beyond 7,000, but they are just not willing to push it that far.
>> Nowadays I'm more of a street car guy, but still like to have power. I
>> don't believe the choices should be to do nothing or go all the way to r=
ace
>> specs. From 1968 on Triumphs were severely detuned to pass emissions.
>> Compression ratio and duration and hence cam overlap at TDC were reduced=
.
>> For example, the early TR250/6 had 193 degrees duration (measured at
>> 0.050), while the TR4 was about 215 and the early PI TR5/6 was 226. It
>> seems crazy to rebuild a street car of this era to the original specs.
>> Bumping the compression ratio by a point and increasing the duration to
>> something like 210-215 will make the engine the way it would have been
>> without emission restrictions. I would not feel guilty about polluting =
the
>> planet, since most of these cars see few miles annually and most of the
>> other pollution controls (e.g. ignition retard) probably quit working ye=
ars
>> ago.
>> > - Larry
>> >
>> > On 10/29/2015 7:25 AM, Duncan Charlton wrote:
>> >> Cam specs and static CR are interactive. This will give you a rundow=
n
>> if you are not already knowledgeable about this subject:
>> >>
>> >>
>> http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Cam_and_compression_ratio_compat=
ibility
>> >>
>> >> Duncan
>> >> (Texas)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>P.J is knowledgeable, smart and already has a good an=
d reliable GT6. </div><div>He is capable of doing good things with these ca=
rs. </div><div>He has already made several mods to his car that were spot o=
n.</div><div><br></div><div>The comments I have made were=C2=A0because I tr=
uly believe that he is ready to race.</div><div>He built a 6 TR=C2=A0250 ye=
ars ago=C2=A0that was a racer already and (likely regrettably) got rid of i=
t.</div><div>he just needs a little encouragement and push to go the race c=
ar route with a GT6. </div><div>From what I know of him, </div><div>Be it t=
rack day or full on race car he is looking for something beyond what he alr=
eady has...</div><div><br></div><div>which obviously is joining our dark si=
de.</div><div>Sure, he could buy a Gt6 racecar if he could find one.</div><=
div>But he is a tinkerer </div><div>and a guy that actually could build a g=
ood race car and already said he knows it may take several years.</div><div=
><br></div><div>Take it slow and have fun with it P.J.</div><div>But there =
is no reason to build the same car you already have.</div><div>Something di=
fferent,=C2=A0</div><div>Better and more useful for play.</div><div>for YOU=
, that=C2=A0is a demon that you can track day or eventually race.</div><div=
><br></div><div>Jason.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><div>=C2=A0</div></div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at =
5:44 PM, McKearn McKearn <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:mckearn2@g=
mail.com" target=3D"_blank">mckearn2@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #=
ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I can tell you that I alr=
eady have a GT6 with a good flexible power band and good reliability. It la=
cks quickness=C2=A0however,=C2=A0due in part to the TR6 engine=C2=A0which i=
s not highly tuned=C2=A0=C2=A0and I'm sure the gearing could be better =
(3.27 rearend-Toyota T50 trans.)( Good for the highway.)=C2=A0My old car is=
pretty much=C2=A0to the point where I don't want to do anything more t=
o it=C2=A0so I want to move on to another project.=C2=A0=C2=A0This time=C2=
=A0I want to build a car that snorts . I do however need to put it on and o=
ff the trailer and I'm not thrilled about breaking parts with max. RPMs=
so I can't afford to go all out.=C2=A0 I'm looking for quickness t=
hrough the gears and good handling.=C2=A0</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 P.J.=C2=A0</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote"><span>On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Duncan Charlton=
<span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:duncan.charlton54@gmail.com"; targe=
t=3D"_blank">duncan.charlton54@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></span><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-l=
eft:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-lef=
t-style:solid"><span>Larry=E2=80=99s comments make me wonder the precise in=
tended purpose of the engine mentioned by the original poster.=C2=A0 =E2=80=
=9CTrack days=E2=80=9D might mean different things to different people.=C2=
=A0 Does P. J. want a good flexible power band, or does he need an ultimate=
dyno horsepower figure?=C2=A0 Does the motor have the gear set to be able =
to take advantage of an engine with very little low-end torque? How high am=
ong his priorities is the ability to be able to drive the car back on the t=
railer at the end of every track weekend?=C2=A0 Lack of sponsorship and cas=
h prizes mean that I must find the setup that maximizes the fun/cost ratio.=
<br>
<br>
Duncan<br>
<br>
<br>
> On Oct 31, 2015, at 1:34 PM, Larry Young <<a href=3D"mailto:cartrav=
el@pobox.com" target=3D"_blank">cartravel@pobox.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> That is an interesting article, but only speaks to one side of the iss=
ue.=C2=A0 I always say that you want to pick an intake duration for an RPM =
range that you're willing and able to turn. We all know what happens to=
a stock TR4 crank which sees >6,000 on a regular basis.=C2=A0 Some guys=
want a cam good beyond 7,000, but they are just not willing to push it tha=
t far. Nowadays I'm more of a street car guy, but still like to have po=
wer.=C2=A0 I don't believe the choices should be to do nothing or go al=
l the way to race specs.=C2=A0 From 1968 on Triumphs were severely detuned =
to pass emissions.=C2=A0 Compression ratio and duration and hence cam overl=
ap at TDC were reduced.=C2=A0 For example, the early TR250/6 had 193 degree=
s duration (measured at 0.050), while the TR4 was about 215 and the early P=
I TR5/6 was 226. It seems crazy to rebuild a street car of this era to the =
original specs.=C2=A0 Bumping the compression ratio by a point and increasi=
ng the duration to something like 210-215 will make the engine the way it w=
ould have been without emission restrictions.=C2=A0 I would not feel guilty=
about polluting the planet, since most of these cars see few miles annuall=
y and most of the other pollution controls (e.g. ignition retard) probably =
quit working years ago.<br>
> - Larry<br>
><br>
> On 10/29/2015 7:25 AM, Duncan Charlton wrote:<br>
>> Cam specs and static CR are interactive.=C2=A0 This will give you =
a rundown if you are not already knowledgeable about this subject:<br>
>><br>
>> <a href=3D"http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Cam_and_compres=
sion_ratio_compatibility" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">http://www.c=
rankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Cam_and_compression_ratio_compatibility</a><br>
>><br>
>> Duncan<br>
>> (Texas)<br>
>><br>
>><br>
><br>
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