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To: Randall <TR3driver@ca.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] cams and roaches and such
From: Bill Babcock <Bill@ponostyle.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2015 06:24:36 -0800
Cc: fot <fot@autox.team.net>
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Of course it=E2=80=99s overstating, I=E2=80=99m a marketer, bullshit is =
what I do. But it=E2=80=99s not that big an overstatement. I don=E2=80=99t=
 have a similar graph for much earlier, but take a look at page two of =
this census bureau report, =
https://www.census.gov/prod/2010pubs/p25-1138.pdf =
<https://www.census.gov/prod/2010pubs/p25-1138.pdf>   note the shape of =
the curve and the progression through 2050. And then realize that the =
biggest advances in projected lifespan happened between 1900 and 1980. =
The curve flattened since then. =
https://www.ssa.gov/oact/NOTES/as120/LifeTables_Body.html =
<https://www.ssa.gov/oact/NOTES/as120/LifeTables_Body.html>

On an individual basis what you are saying may have always been =
true=E2=80=94people who made it to 65 passed through the communicable =
disease and accident phase unscathed. But for the population as a whole =
that wasn=E2=80=99t true. Life expectancy at age 65 started increasing =
rapidly in 1970 for males and 1940 for females.=20

And of course, this list is self-selected. Anyone who is dead is not =
here.=20

On Nov 1, 2015, at 9:48 PM, Randall <TR3driver@ca.rr.com> wrote:
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>>      The biggest problem with retirement is that we were all=20
>> supposed to die at 62.7.That was the average life expectancy=20
>> in 1935 when social security started.=20
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> "All supposed to die" is overstating the case, IMO.  One of the main =
reasons life expectancy at birth was lower back then was
> because so many people died before joining the workforce.  Infant and =
even teen mortality was much higher then, due to lack of
> things like antibiotics and vaccines.  Even in 1930, someone who had =
lived to age 65 had a better than 50/50 chance of making it to
> 75.
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> But 'average life expectancy' has never meant that we are "all =
supposed to die" by any age.  "The world's oldest man" that died a
> few months back was already 32 in 1935!
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> And I'll bet there are quite a few on this list that were born before =
1935. =20
> <g>
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> Randall
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Of course it=E2=80=99s overstating, I=E2=80=99m a marketer, =
bullshit is what I do. But it=E2=80=99s not that big an overstatement. I =
don=E2=80=99t have a similar graph for much earlier, but take a look at =
page two of this census bureau report,&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://www.census.gov/prod/2010pubs/p25-1138.pdf"; =
class=3D"">https://www.census.gov/prod/2010pubs/p25-1138.pdf</a>&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;note the shape of the curve and the progression through 2050. =
And then realize that the biggest advances in projected lifespan =
happened between 1900 and 1980. The curve flattened since then.&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://www.ssa.gov/oact/NOTES/as120/LifeTables_Body.html"; =
class=3D"">https://www.ssa.gov/oact/NOTES/as120/LifeTables_Body.html</a><d=
iv class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">On an individual =
basis what you are saying may have always been true=E2=80=94people who =
made it to 65 passed through the communicable disease and accident phase =
unscathed. But for the population as a whole that wasn=E2=80=99t true. =
Life expectancy at age 65 started increasing rapidly in 1970 for males =
and 1940 for females.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div=
 class=3D"">And of course, this list is self-selected. Anyone who is =
dead is not here.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">On Nov 1, 2015, at 9:48 PM, Randall &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:TR3driver@ca.rr.com"; class=3D"">TR3driver@ca.rr.com</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">     </span>The =
biggest problem with retirement is that we were all <br =
class=3D"">supposed to die at 62.7.That was the average life expectancy =
<br class=3D"">in 1935 when social security started. <br =
class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">"All supposed to die" is =
overstating the case, IMO. &nbsp;One of the main reasons life expectancy =
at birth was lower back then was<br class=3D"">because so many people =
died before joining the workforce. &nbsp;Infant and even teen mortality =
was much higher then, due to lack of<br class=3D"">things like =
antibiotics and vaccines. &nbsp;Even in 1930, someone who had lived to =
age 65 had a better than 50/50 chance of making it to<br class=3D"">75.<br=
 class=3D""><br class=3D"">But 'average life expectancy' has never meant =
that we are "all supposed to die" by any age. &nbsp;"The world's oldest =
man" that died a<br class=3D"">few months back was already 32 in =
1935!<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">And I'll bet there are quite a few on =
this list that were born before 1935. &nbsp;<br class=3D"">&lt;g&gt;<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Randall<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">_______________________________________________<br =
class=3D""><a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">http://www.fot-racing.com<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Donate: =
http://www.team.net/forums<br class=3D"">Unsubscribe/Manage: =
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