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Re: [Fot] Shift Knob

To: "rkramer3@austin.rr.com" <rkramer3@austin.rr.com>, "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" <FOT@autox.team.net>, Todd Redmond <alfetta95@optonline.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Shift Knob
From: Jack Wheeler <jwheeler1947@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 20:28:39 +0000 (UTC)
Delivered-to: mharc@autox.team.net
Delivered-to: fot@autox.team.net
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Don't forget to lift the lever up, before shifting into reverse. Many folks=
 tend to force the gear lever over to the right (hitting it hard with the b=
ack of your hand), then down, without lifting.=C2=A0 This causes undue wear=
 on the shift fork shaft.=C2=A0 There is an intentional 'lock out' in the d=
esign of the shaft, which is designed to prevent shifting into reverse when=
 you really wanted a forward gear. Constant shifting into reverse without l=
ifting the lever will gradually wear down the shift fork shaft so that this=
 'lock out' feature will no longer be functional.=C2=A0 This will then caus=
e more unintentional shifting into reverse when the car is moving forward, =
and resultant damage to the reverse gear.

A case in point.=C2=A0 Years ago, I went to look at a TR-4 that was for sal=
e, and was going to take it for a test drive. I had to back out of the spac=
e where it was parked.=C2=A0 We got in the car (me in the driver's seat, se=
ller in the passenger seat), and he instructed me to hit the left side of t=
he shift lever with the right side of my hand, as hard as I could.=C2=A0 He=
 explained that this would move the lever over far enough that I could then=
 pull it down into reverse.=C2=A0 He told me this was the way it was suppos=
ed to work.=C2=A0 Obviously, no one had instructed him on the correct proce=
dure.=C2=A0 Over the years, I've taken apart a number of gear boxes, and al=
most all of them have excessive wear on the reverse gear shift fork shaft, =
most to the point where there is virtually no 'lock out' affect remaining.
Just FYI
Jack
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      From: "rkramer3@austin.rr.com" <rkramer3@austin.rr.com>
 To: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" <FOT@autox.team.net>; Todd Red=
mond <alfetta95@optonline.net>=20
 Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 12:55 PM
 Subject: Re: [Fot] Shift Knob
  =20
I suspect the only thing about that shift know that is Triumph are the thre=
ads that allowed it to be spun onto the shifter. Reverse is to the bottom r=
ight, not left as shown, and it is 1st on the top left pull down for 2nd, u=
p and over for third, then down for fourth. Pop it over further to the righ=
t and pull down and you'll find reverse.

Bob Kramer
rkramer3@austin.rr.com



---- Todd Redmond <alfetta95@optonline.net> wrote:=20
> Can anyone identify this shift knob? =C2=A0The thumb switch is broken off=
 but=20
> was in place between the H and L for overdrive. =C2=A0I'd like to replace=
 it=20
> with the same. =C2=A0Kinda thinking its from a Dolomite.
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>=20
> And since I've never driven this car, is that the location for reverse=20
> on a TR3 gearbox?
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>=20
> Thanks
> Todd
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ont-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, =
sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1447162486441_23118">Don=
't forget to lift the lever up, before shifting into reverse. Many folks te=
nd to force the gear lever over to the right (hitting it hard with the back=
 of your hand), then down, without lifting.&nbsp; This causes undue wear on=
 the shift fork shaft.&nbsp; There is an intentional 'lock out' in the desi=
gn of the shaft, which is designed to prevent shifting into reverse when yo=
u really wanted a forward gear. Constant shifting into reverse without lift=
ing the lever will gradually wear down the shift fork shaft so that this 'l=
ock out' feature will no longer be functional.&nbsp; This will then cause m=
ore unintentional shifting into reverse when the car is moving forward, and=
 resultant damage to the reverse gear.<br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144=
7162486441_23119"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1447162486441_23120">A =
case in point.&nbsp; Years ago, I went to look at a TR-4 that was for sale,=
 and was going to take it for a test drive. I had to back out of the space =
where it was parked.&nbsp; We got in the car (me in the driver's seat, sell=
er in the passenger seat), and he instructed me to hit the left side of the=
 shift lever with the right side of my hand, as hard as I could.&nbsp; He e=
xplained that this would move the lever over far enough that I could then p=
ull it down into reverse.&nbsp; He told me this was the way it was supposed=
 to work.&nbsp; Obviously, no one had instructed him on the correct procedu=
re.&nbsp; Over the years, I've taken apart a number of gear boxes, and almo=
st all of them have excessive wear on the reverse gear shift fork shaft, mo=
st to the point where there is virtually no 'lock out' affect remaining.</d=
iv><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1447162486441_23242"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_=
16_0_1_1447162486441_23148">Just FYI</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144716248=
6441_23241"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1447162486441_23240">Jack<br>=
 </div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1447162486441_22203"><span></span></div><br>=
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=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1447162486441_23233" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> <b><span s=
tyle=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> "rkramer3@austin.rr.com" &lt;rk=
ramer3@austin.rr.com&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</spa=
n></b> "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" &lt;FOT@autox.team.net&gt;; =
Todd Redmond &lt;alfetta95@optonline.net&gt; <br> <b><span style=3D"font-we=
ight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, November 10, 2015 12:55 PM<br> <b><s=
pan style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Fot] Shift Knob<b=
r> </font> </div> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1447162486441_23155" class=3D"y_m=
sg_container"><br>I suspect the only thing about that shift know that is Tr=
iumph are the threads that allowed it to be spun onto the shifter. Reverse =
is to the bottom right, not left as shown, and it is 1st on the top left pu=
ll down for 2nd, up and over for third, then down for fourth. Pop it over f=
urther to the right and pull down and you'll find reverse.<br clear=3D"none=
"><br clear=3D"none">Bob Kramer<br clear=3D"none"><a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:rkramer3@austin.rr.com"; href=3D"mailto:rkramer3@austin.rr.com";>r=
kramer3@austin.rr.com</a><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><b=
r><br></div><div class=3D"yqt5649243518" id=3D"yqtfd60073"><br clear=3D"non=
e">---- Todd Redmond &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:alfetta95@opto=
nline.net" href=3D"mailto:alfetta95@optonline.net";>alfetta95@optonline.net<=
/a>&gt; wrote: <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Can anyone identify this shift knob?=
 &nbsp;The thumb switch is broken off but <br clear=3D"none">&gt; was in pl=
ace between the H and L for overdrive. &nbsp;I'd like to replace it <br cle=
ar=3D"none">&gt; with the same. &nbsp;Kinda thinking its from a Dolomite.<b=
r clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; And s=
ince I've never driven this car, is that the location for reverse <br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; on a TR3 gearbox?<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">=
&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Thanks<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Todd<br clear=3D=
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