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Re: [Fot] Balancing wire wheels

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Subject: Re: [Fot] Balancing wire wheels
From: Jack Brooks <JIBrooks@Live.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 00:22:30 +0000
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Tim,

Something that might help too.  I watched the tire company in Tacoma, WA re=
commended by Charlie Arnold.  The measured the tire run-out using a light t=
ouch of chalk on the outside of the tire, then measured rim run-out using t=
he same light touch of chalk on the inside of the rim.  They then rotated t=
he tire to minimize overall run-out.  Once this was done, they balanced the=
 tire.

I've never seen this with a modern wheel, but with the wire wheels it made =
a noticeable difference.

Jack

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of timmmurphh@gmail=
.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 3:36 PM
To: fot@autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Balancing wire wheels

I just got my balancer working again and tried balancing a 4-1/2 inch wide =
and a 5-1/2 inch wide wire wheel off of a Triumph TR4A and a TR5.  If I try=
 to do a 2-plane or dynamic balance, I get very large weights, like 4 to 5 =
ounces that are to be added.  If I do a single plane, static balance, then =
I get reasonable weights to add like a couple of ounces at most.  I think t=
hat unless the wire wheel has been recently trued very accurately this is g=
oing to be the result.  The wheels have large run out compared to alloy whe=
els.  What have others who have tried to balance wire wheels come up with?

I got lucky with my balancer and could just use one of the cones and the la=
rge "T-nut" which mated up with the OD of the spline tube perfectly.

Tim Murphy

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ti=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ti=
mes New Roman&quot;,serif">Something that might help too.&nbsp; I watched t=
he tire company in Tacoma, WA recommended by Charlie Arnold.&nbsp; The meas=
ured the tire run-out using a light touch of chalk on the
 outside of the tire, then measured rim run-out using the same light touch =
of chalk on the inside of the rim.&nbsp; They then rotated the tire to mini=
mize overall run-out.&nbsp; Once this was done, they balanced the tire.&nbs=
p;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ti=
mes New Roman&quot;,serif">I&#8217;ve never seen this with a modern wheel, =
but with the wire wheels it made a noticeable difference.<o:p></o:p></span>=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net]=
 <b>On Behalf Of
</b>timmmurphh@gmail.com<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 27, 2016 3:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> fot@autox.team.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Fot] Balancing wire wheels<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I just got my balancer working again and tried balan=
cing a 4-1/2 inch wide and a 5-1/2 inch wide wire wheel off of a Triumph TR=
4A and a TR5.&nbsp; If I try to do a 2-plane or dynamic balance, I get very=
 large weights, like 4 to 5 ounces that
 are to be added.&nbsp; If I do a single plane, static balance, then I get =
reasonable weights to add like a couple of ounces at most.&nbsp; I think th=
at unless the wire wheel has been recently trued very accurately this is go=
ing to be the result.&nbsp; The wheels have large
 run out compared to alloy wheels.&nbsp; What have others who have tried to=
 balance wire wheels come up with?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I got lucky with my balancer and could just use one =
of the cones and the large &#8220;T-nut&#8221; which mated up with the OD o=
f the spline tube perfectly.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Tim Murphy<o:p></o:p></p>
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