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Subject: [Fot] Holley Red Top fuel pump question
From: ponobill at gmail.com (Bill)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 08:12:02 -0800
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Holley pumps are centrifugal, which means they can?t self-prime. Its not 
generally a problem if the height isn?t too much, but yes, it?s better with any 
centrifugal pump to have a net positive suction head. 
> 
> Bud,
> I originally ran a blue Holley pump above the top level of my fuel cell with 
> around two feet of hose to it, without a problem and I now use a Facel 
> cylindrical type in the same spot, still with no problems.  The Holley was 
> too loud for anything but full throttle race conditions in my TR3.  It buzzed 
> terribly loud.  If I mounted the Holley at the end of a ten foot stick 
> outside the car, it might have been perfect.  
> The pump is mounted to the roll cage tube in the trunk and although rubber 
> mounted, perhaps the intense buzzing sound was amplified through the cage 
> tubing.  
> I still have the Holley as a back up.  
> I know many use these Holley pumps without problems, that's why I initially 
> chose it.  I just couldn't tolerate it's buzz during occasional street use or 
> touring.  Besides the noise it worked fine, above and away from the tank.
> 
> // Dave H.
> 
> Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2017 9:58:55 AM
> Subject: [Fot] Holley Red Top fuel pump question
> 
> List,
> 
> Holley recommends that their fuel pump be installed so that the pump is lower 
> than the fuel level. Has anyone had a problem with the pump installed  
> differently? 
> 
> My dilemma is that my fuel cell sits low (in a cut out with brackets) in the 
> boot of my Spitfire and the previous owner had installed the old Holley pump 
> lower than the fuel level but in what I felt like was a dangerous place as it 
> was exposed under the car and the fuel lines were also routed where they 
> could have gotten easily damaged (basically very close to the wheel well). 
> I?m moving the fuel pump and the lines to be inside the boot but it is not 
> possible to make the pump sit entirely below the fuel level since the bottom 
> of the fuel cell sits below the floor of the boot. The chosen location makes 
> the pump sit about 1/3 of the way from the fuel cell bottom.
> 
> I know Holley wants to take advantage of the siphoning effect (apparently 
> because they push fuel better than they pull fuel) but does that matter as 
> long as the fuel pressure is maintained at the proper level for my carbs? I 
> figure if I run with the fuel cell full (8 gal) the fuel level will be above 
> the pump the majority of the time. I?ve been burning about 3-4 gallons per 
> (20 min.) race.
> 
> Has anyone had issues with the Holley fuel pumps not being installed exactly 
> like Holley says? I?ve seen some other Spitfire racers with the Holley fuel 
> pump NOT below the fuel level so I?m hoping it works for me to do the same. 
> I?m thinking about one of the two locations shown in the pics. Right in front 
> of the fuel cell is my preferred location at this point as the other location 
> to the side of the fuel cell would be more vulnerable in a crash situation.
> 
> Thanks
> Bud Rolofson
> 
> Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)
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