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Subject: Re: [Fot] EGT gauge installation
From: Tony Drews via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 09:56:13 -0600
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I've always heard that if you have a balance tube between front and rear 
carb that you want to run in 1 and 4 so you can better isolate which 
carb you want to adjust.

I have mine in 1 and 4 but run webers so no balance tube.  I see up to 
1450 F at the end of long straights.  Much more than that and I start to 
transfer aluminum from the piston to the cylinder walls.  I think 
there's some variation in temp readings between different probes and 
gauges, I don't know what the accuracy really is.

It's a great troubleshooting tool when the car starts to run like crap.  
Another helpful tools is a fuel pressure gauge (with isolator so you 
don't pipe gas into the passenger compartment). Pressure too high 
overruns the floats.  To low and you've got something funny with the 
feed like a regulator / pump going bad or you forgot to put gas in the car.

- Tony

On 2/27/2019 6:10 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote:
>
> Interesting â?? why not 1 and 4 or 2 and 3?
>
> Scott (B.)
>
> *From:*Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Rick Parent via Fot
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 27, 2019 2:20 PM
> *To:* John Styduhar <johnstydo@gmail.com>; Terry Stetler 
> <tlizzard@msn.com>
> *Cc:* Friends of Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] EGT gauge installation
>
> If you are using SU's I would use Cylinders 1 and 3 or 2 and 4. If you 
> are using dual Webers I prefer the same as above but any two will do 
> really.
>
> On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, 1:00:53 AM EST, Terry Stetler via Fot 
>
> One and Four.  Typically those would run the leaner than Two and Three.
>
> Terry Stetler
>
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> *From:*Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2019 12:30:15 PM
> *To:* Triumph 'Friends of Triumph
> *Subject:* [Fot] EGT gauge installation
>
> I need some tips on installation of a dual probe EGT gauge on the TR4 
> race engine with twin Strombergs-
>
> What two cylinder to use for probes.
>
> Optimum EG temperature for tuning purposes.
>
> Thanks
>
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    <p>I've always heard that if you have a balance tube between front
      and rear carb that you want to run in 1 and 4 so you can better
      isolate which carb you want to adjust.</p>
    <p>I have mine in 1 and 4 but run webers so no balance tube.  I see
      up to 1450 F at the end of long straights.  Much more than that
      and I start to transfer aluminum from the piston to the cylinder
      walls.  I think there's some variation in temp readings between
      different probes and gauges, I don't know what the accuracy really
      is.</p>
    <p>It's a great troubleshooting tool when the car starts to run like
      crap.  Another helpful tools is a fuel pressure gauge (with
      isolator so you don't pipe gas into the passenger compartment). 
      Pressure too high overruns the floats.  To low and you've got
      something funny with the feed like a regulator / pump going bad or
      you forgot to put gas in the car.<br>
    </p>
    <p>- Tony<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/27/2019 6:10 PM, Barr, Scott via
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Century
            Gothic&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Interesting â?? why not
            1 and 4 or 2 and 3?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Century
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(B.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                  
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> Fot
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net";>&lt;fot-bounces@autox.team.net&gt;</a>
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rick Parent via Fot<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 27, 2019 2:20 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> John Styduhar <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:johnstydo@gmail.com";>&lt;johnstydo@gmail.com&gt;</a>;
                Terry Stetler <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:tlizzard@msn.com";>&lt;tlizzard@msn.com&gt;</a><br>
                <b>Cc:</b> Friends of Triumph <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>&lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] EGT gauge 
installation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif">If
                you are using SU's I would use Cylinders 1 and 3 or 2
                and 4. If you are using dual Webers I prefer the same as
                above but any two will do really.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  Wednesday, February 27, 2019, 1:00:53 AM EST, Terry
                  Stetler via Fot &lt;<a
                    href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net";
                    moz-do-not-send="true">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                  wrote:
                  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <p class="yiv1325082919msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282A">One
                        and Four.  Typically those would run the leaner
                        than Two and Three.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <p class="yiv1325082919msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282A"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <p class="yiv1325082919msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282A">Terry
                        Stetler<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <p class="yiv1325082919msonormal"><span
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                        from
                        <a
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                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Mail</a>
                        for Windows 10<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          Fot &lt;<a
                            href="mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net";
                            
moz-do-not-send="true">fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                          on behalf of John Styduhar via Fot &lt;<a
                            href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net";
                            
moz-do-not-send="true">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
                          <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 26, 2019
                          12:30:15 PM<br>
                          <b>To:</b> Triumph 'Friends of Triumph<br>
                          <b>Subject:</b> [Fot] EGT gauge 
installation</span><span
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                              
style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282A">I
                              need some tips on installation of a dual
                              probe EGT gauge on the TR4 race engine
                              with twin Strombergs-<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                              
style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282A">What
                              two cylinder to use for 
probes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                              
style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282A">Optimum
                              EG temperature for tuning 
purposes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282A">Thanks <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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