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Subject: Re: [Fot] Cold Fuel
From: Ron KRANTZ via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 22:38:58 -0400 (EDT)
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Actually what Smokey did was Drilled holes in the frame rails so tech knew he 
wasn't putting fuel there but they didn't look at what was inside the frame 
rail.  He put 2 inch radiator hose in there for a fuel line.  The rule was for 
fuel cell capacity but no rule for the fuel line size.

When I ran SCCA nationals at Road America in the 70's I had a 6 gallon cell, 
the races were 15 laps plus parade lap and cool off lap (68 total miles).  I 
was getting 10 miles/gallon and never ran out of fuel.  How you ask...  
Saturday night we drained the cell, drank all the beer and put the gas cans in 
the cooler.  Fueled the car and pushed it to grid Sunday morning.  Before we 
would get to the grid the fuel cell was pissing out the overflow from the fuel 
expanding in less than 5 minutes.

Ron Krantz

ReK Racing #77

> On September 26, 2019 at 6:16 PM Joe Alexander via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> 
> wrote:
> 
>     Smokey Yunick
> 
>     Joe Alexander
>     4505 Donald Dr
>     Cedar Falls, IA 50613http://The-vintage-racer.com
> 
>     http://Gasketinnovations.com
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>     Cell:  319.464.4711
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>     On Sep 26, 2019, at 5:12 PM, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot < fot@autox.team.net 
> mailto:fot@autox.team.net > wrote:
> 
> 
>         > >         Do what one of the Nascar guys did and plumb some extra 
> fuel into your frame.
> >          
> >         From: Barr, Scott via Fot
> >         Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 5:51 PM
> >         To: fot@autox.team.net
> >         Subject: [Fot] Cold Fuel
> >          
> > 
> >         So, how cold does the fuel have to be in order to have any 
> > significant affect on volume?  I need to make 7.2 gallons of fuel go 75 
> > minutes at Road America this weekend, where I typically burn a bit more 
> > than 1 gallon every 10 minutes.  I could soft-pedal it to save some fuel, 
> > but there is some quick competition out there.
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         Scott (B.)
> > 
> >          
> > 
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</head><body><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sa=
ns-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Actually what Smokey did was Drilled hol=
es in the frame rails so tech knew he wasn&#39;t putting fuel there but the=
y didn&#39;t look at what was inside the frame rail.&#160; He put 2 inch ra=
diator hose in there for a fuel line.&#160; The rule was for fuel cell capa=
city but no rule for the fuel line size.<br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt=
; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">When =
I ran SCCA nationals at Road America in the 70&#39;s I had a 6 gallon cell,=
 the races were 15 laps plus parade lap and cool off lap (68 total miles).&=
#160; I was getting 10 miles/gallon and never ran out of fuel.&#160; How yo=
u ask...&#160; Saturday night we drained the cell, drank all the beer and p=
ut the gas cans in the cooler.&#160; Fueled the car and pushed it to grid S=
unday morning.&#160; Before we would get to the grid the fuel cell was piss=
ing out the overflow from the fuel expanding in less than 5 minutes.<br></p=
><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; co=
lor: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Ron Krantz<br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-=
family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">ReK Racing #=
77<br></p><blockquote type=3D"cite">On September 26, 2019 at 6:16 PM Joe Al=
exander via Fot &#60;fot@autox.team.net&#62; wrote: <br> <br>Smokey Yunick =
<br> <br><div id=3D"ox-17f25b2a50-AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Joe Alexa=
nder<div>4505 Donald Dr</div><div>Cedar Falls, IA 50613</div><div><a href=
=3D"http://The-vintage-racer.com";>The-vintage-racer.com</a><br></div><div><=
a href=3D"http://Gasketinnovations.com";>Gasketinnovations.com</a><br></div>=
<div>Cell: &#160;319.464.4711</div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b=
r>On Sep 26, 2019, at 5:12 PM, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot &#60; <a href=3D"mai=
lto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>&#62; wrote: <br> <br></div><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"fo=
nt-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Calibri'; color: #000000;"><div>Do what one of=
 the Nascar guys did and plumb some extra fuel into your frame.</div><div s=
tyle=3D"font-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: 'Calibri'; fo=
nt-weight: normal; color: #000000; font-style: normal; display: inline;"><d=
iv style=3D"font: 10pt tahoma;"><div>&#160;</div><div style=3D"background: =
#f5f5f5;"><div style=3D"font-color: black;"><strong>From:</strong> <a>Barr,=
 Scott via Fot</a><br></div><div><strong>Sent:</strong> Thursday, September=
 26, 2019 5:51 PM</div><div><strong>To:</strong> <a>fot@autox.team.net</a><=
br></div><div><strong>Subject:</strong> [Fot] Cold Fuel</div></div></div><d=
iv>&#160;</div></div><div style=3D"font-size: small; text-decoration: none;=
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ormal; display: inline;"><div class=3D"ox-17f25b2a50-WordSection1"><p class=
=3D"ox-17f25b2a50-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: '=
Century Gothic',sans-serif; color: black;">So, how cold does the fuel have =
to be in order to have any significant affect on volume?&#160; I need to ma=
ke 7.2 gallons of fuel go 75 minutes at Road America this weekend, where I =
typically burn a bit more than 1 gallon every 10 minutes.&#160; I could sof=
t-pedal it to save some fuel, but there is some quick competition out there=
. </span></p><p class=3D"ox-17f25b2a50-MsoNormal">&#160;</p><p class=3D"ox-=
17f25b2a50-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Century=
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