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Re: [Fot] Brake and Clutch to the floor.

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Subject: Re: [Fot] Brake and Clutch to the floor.
From: Tony Drews via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2019 23:38:51 -0600
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Another two feet in video - skip to about 2:45.  This has nothing to do 
with the original Overdrive question, but shows how hard braking keeps 
the car from going in unpredictable directions... Took me a mental 
second to realize I wasn't going to catch this one, seems like much less 
than a second watching the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFQUYNxwIMI


Cheers, Tony


On 12/25/2019 7:57 PM, marty via Fot wrote:
> If you go to the 6:47 point in this video you can see John showing off 
> the brake and clutch to the floor technique. ð???
>
> https://youtu.be/uyZNmn-5SpA
>
>
> Marty
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of John H. Hasty 
> via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 24, 2019 2:18 PM
> *To:* David Gott <triumphsix@yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* FOT List <fot@autox.team.net>; Glenn Franco <brakey6666@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] A-Type Overdrive Testing
> Yep...brake & clutch to the floor... also can be wired to disengage 
> ... ask Steve Yott...
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 24, 2019, at 1:50 PM, David Gott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Speaking of spinning the OD backwards, which it wonâ??t do, what 
>> happens if you spin the car while overdrive is engaged?   Probably my 
>> biggest concern for running one of these in a race car...   I was 
>> thinking Iâ??d use it on track and maybe autocross, but I think that is 
>> ill advised now that I bring up that question.   Has anyone ever spun 
>> and rolled backwards, with OD engaged?
>>
>> Dave G
>>
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone 
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>>
>> On Tuesday, December 24, 2019, 12:47 PM, Greg Blake 
>> <gblake58tr3@icloud.com> wrote:
>>
>>     If this is for a race car, you might consider shiming the
>>     accumulator spring to get closer to 500psi.
>>
>>     Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>>     On Dec 24, 2019, at 10:51 AM, David Gott via Fot
>>>     <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>      I was able to test my overdrive by chucking a 1/2â?? electric
>>>     drill on the input shaft and turning the whole transmission.
>>>      (Make sure to spin the right direction!). Pretty sure I used
>>>     4th gear.   I was able to determine that my OD pressure is at
>>>     350 psi, so Iâ??ll have to shim the spring I guess.
>>>
>>>     Secondary question; the OD seemed to stick on me, but I did not
>>>     have a load on the output flange, due to being on the bench; Iâ??m
>>>     assuming this might be an issue?  Or would a load coax the OD to
>>>     releasing as appropriate?
>>>
>>>     Hopefully I donâ??t hijack your thread too much!
>>>
>>>     Thanks,
>>>     Dave Gott
>>>     62 TR4 (â??Aâ?? type on the bench)
>>>
>>>     Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>>>     <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS>
>>>
>>>     On Tuesday, December 24, 2019, 11:25 AM, Jack Wheeler via Fot
>>>     <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>         I have tested overdrives like this for years. My drive motor
>>>         only spins in one direction, which makes sure the output
>>>         shaft only spins in the same direction the shaft would be
>>>         spinning when the car is driven in a forward speed. 
>>>         Therefore, I don't know what would happen if you spun it in
>>>         the wrong direction.
>>>
>>>         Jack
>>>
>>>         On Monday, December 23, 2019, 10:05:53 PM EST, Glenn Franco
>>>         via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>         Merry Christmas
>>>         Quick Question
>>>         A friend of mine started testing his A-Type Overdrives by
>>>         back spinning the output flange (to the prop shaft) with a
>>>         pulley and electric motor.
>>>         I've seen this done by spinning the transmission INPUT shaft
>>>         with a pulley and electric motor but not from the rear.
>>>         Any chance of damaging the overdrive since the overrunning
>>>         clutch is only going to spin in the one direction, can it
>>>         lock up the overdrive?
>>>         Thanks in advance
>>>         Glenn
>>>
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    <p>Another two feet in video - skip to about 2:45.  This has nothing
      to do with the original Overdrive question, but shows how hard
      braking keeps the car from going in unpredictable directions... 
      Took me a mental second to realize I wasn't going to catch this
      one, seems like much less than a second watching the video.</p>
    <p><a 
href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFQUYNxwIMI";>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFQUYNxwIMI</a></p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>Cheers, Tony<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/25/2019 7:57 PM, marty via Fot
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        <span>If you go to the 6:47 point in this video you can see John
          showing off the brake and clutch to the floor technique.
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            face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Fot
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href="mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net";>&lt;fot-bounces@autox.team.net&gt;</a> 
on behalf of John H.
            Hasty via Fot <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>&lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;</a><br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 24, 2019 2:18 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> David Gott <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
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        <div dir="auto">Yep...brake &amp; clutch to the floor... also
          can be wired to disengage ... ask Steve Yott...<br>
          <br>
          <div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
          <div dir="ltr"><br>
            <blockquote type="cite">On Dec 24, 2019, at 1:50 PM, David
              Gott via Fot <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>&lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;</a> wrote:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr"> Speaking of spinning the OD backwards,
              which it wonâ??t do, what happens if you spin the car while
              overdrive is engaged?   Probably my biggest concern for
              running one of these in a race car...   I was thinking Iâ??d
              use it on track and maybe autocross, but I think that is
              ill advised now that I bring up that question.   Has
              anyone ever spun and rolled backwards, with OD engaged?
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Dave G<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                <a href="https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS";
                  moz-do-not-send="true">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a><br>
                <br>
                <p class="x_yahoo-quoted-begin" style="font-size:15px;
                  color:#715FFA; padding-top:15px; margin-top:0">
                  On Tuesday, December 24, 2019, 12:47 PM, Greg Blake
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:gblake58tr3@icloud.com";>&lt;gblake58tr3@icloud.com&gt;</a> 
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                    <div>If this is for a race car, you might consider
                      shiming the accumulator spring to get closer to
                      500psi. <br clear="none">
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                      <div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
                      <div dir="ltr"><br clear="none">
                        <blockquote type="cite">On Dec 24, 2019, at
                          10:51 AM, David Gott via Fot
                          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>&lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;</a> wrote:<br
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                        <div dir="ltr"> I was able to test my overdrive
                          by chucking a 1/2â?? electric drill on the input
                          shaft and turning the whole transmission.
                           (Make sure to spin the right direction!).
                          Pretty sure I used 4th gear.   I was able to
                          determine that my OD pressure is at 350 psi,
                          so Iâ??ll have to shim the spring I guess.
                          <div><br clear="none">
                          </div>
                          <div>Secondary question; the OD seemed to
                            stick on me, but I did not have a load on
                            the output flange, due to being on the
                            bench; Iâ??m assuming this might be an issue?
                             Or would a load coax the OD to releasing as
                            appropriate?</div>
                          <div><br clear="none">
                          </div>
                          <div>Hopefully I donâ??t hijack your thread too
                            much!</div>
                          <div><br clear="none">
                          </div>
                          <div>Thanks,</div>
                          <div>Dave Gott<br clear="none">
                            62 TR4 (â??Aâ?? type on the bench)<br
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                              On Tuesday, December 24, 2019, 11:25 AM,
                              Jack Wheeler via Fot
                              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>&lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;</a> wrote:</p>
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                                    <div dir="ltr">I have tested
                                      overdrives like this for years. 
                                      My drive motor only spins in one
                                      direction, which makes sure the
                                      output shaft only spins in the
                                      same direction the shaft would be
                                      spinning when the car is driven in
                                      a forward speed.  Therefore, I
                                      don't know what would happen if
                                      you spun it in the wrong
                                      direction.</div>
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                                        <div>On Monday, December 23,
                                          2019, 10:05:53 PM EST, Glenn
                                          Franco via Fot
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href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>&lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;</a>
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                                              <div>Merry Christmas</div>
                                              <div>Quick Question</div>
                                              <div>A friend of mine
                                                started testing his
                                                A-Type Overdrives by
                                                back spinning the output
                                                flange (to the prop
                                                shaft) with a pulley and
                                                electric motor.</div>
                                              <div>I've seen this done
                                                by spinning the
                                                transmission INPUT shaft
                                                with a pulley and
                                                electric motor but not
                                                from the rear.</div>
                                              <div>Any chance of
                                                damaging the overdrive
                                                since the overrunning
                                                clutch is only going to
                                                spin in the one
                                                direction, can it lock
                                                up the overdrive?</div>
                                              <div>Thanks in advance</div>
                                              <div>Glenn</div>
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