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To: Bill Dentinger <billdentin@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Two feet in. Re: A-Type Overdrive Testing
From: Bob Kramer via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 06:56:26 -0600
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Wasn't there fence ripping accident on the back straight at RA? I think
that that was the Katherine Legge.

Bob Kramer


On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 1:13 PM Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Mike...
>
> Great point.  Many years ago when I first started Vintage Racing, the
> tracks were 'forgiving'.  If you made a mistake, you spun off mowing the
> lawn or creating a dust cloud.  The only penalty was embarrassment.  I'll
> never forget then one first spring event I showed up for at Road America
> and it was like I was in a street race, surrounded by Century Link Fencin=
g.
>
> I was told that as far as Road America was concerned CART had demanded
> it.  CART was afraid one of their cars would leap the cement barriers/sno=
w
> fencing and crash into the crowd.
>
> No question that was a potential issue.  The change was a good idea...but
> drivers like me (prone to make errors) missed those 'forgiving' tracks.
>
> Bill Dentinger
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> To: Greg Blake <gblake58tr3@icloud.com>
> Cc: FoTTriumph <fot@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wed, Dec 25, 2019 10:42 am
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Two feet in. Re: A-Type Overdrive Testing
>
> You guys have a lot of nothing down there, sure makes it easier to avoid
> stuff. At Watkins Glen, with the guardrails about one car width off the
> track, it's more like
> " If you spin, they're towing you in"
>
> mike h
>
> On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 12:13 PM Greg Blake via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> One of my experiences watching what happens when you don=E2=80=99t go two=
 in.
>
> https://youtu.be/T7vsqHKaR7c
>
> The MGB behind me was not so fortunate
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 25, 2019, at 8:06 AM, Bob Kramer via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
>
> Two feet in has its advantages
>
> https://youtu.be/p27lXSehRY0
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 24, 2019, at 6:07 PM, Bill Tobin via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> Another variation on the saying: If you're going around it's both feet
> down.
> Merry Christmas.
> Bill
> On 12/24/2019 7:00 PM, Greg Blake via Fot wrote:
>
> Whenever you start to spin it=E2=80=99s two feet in. I=E2=80=99ve been in=
 a few situations
> where other drivers have tried to save a spin by not following this advic=
e
> and they always come rolling across the track backwards following an
> unpredictable path usually collecting a few unsuspecting racers along the
> way.  Always go two feet in.
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Wasn&#39;t there fence ripping accident on the back straig=
ht at RA? I think that that was the Katherine Legge.<div><br clear=3D"all">=
<div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_sig=
nature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Kramer</div></div></div><br></div></div><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec =
25, 2019 at 1:13 PM Bill Dentinger via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.=
team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt arial">
<div>Mike...</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Great point.=C2=A0 Many years ago when I first started Vintage Racing,=
 the tracks were &#39;forgiving&#39;.=C2=A0 If you made a mistake, you spun=
 off mowing the lawn or creating a dust cloud.=C2=A0 The only penalty was e=
mbarrassment.=C2=A0 I&#39;ll never forget then one first spring event I sho=
wed up for at Road America and it was like I was in a street race, surround=
ed by Century Link Fencing.</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>I was told that as far as Road America was concerned CART had demanded=
 it.=C2=A0 CART was afraid one of their cars would leap the cement barriers=
/snow fencing and crash into the crowd. =C2=A0</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>No question that was a potential issue.=C2=A0 The change was a good id=
ea...but drivers like me (prone to make errors) missed those &#39;forgiving=
&#39; tracks.</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Bill Dentinger</div>

<div><br>
</div>
<br>
<br>

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Original Message-----<br>
From: Mike Harmuth via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
To: Greg Blake &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gblake58tr3@icloud.com"; target=3D"_bla=
nk">gblake58tr3@icloud.com</a>&gt;<br>
Cc: FoTTriumph &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">=
fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Wed, Dec 25, 2019 10:42 am<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Two feet in. Re: A-Type Overdrive Testing<br>
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<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">You guys have a lot of nothing down there, sure makes it e=
asier to avoid stuff. At Watkins Glen, with the guardrails about one car wi=
dth off the track, it&#39;s more like
<div>&quot; If you spin, they&#39;re towing you in&quot;</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>mike h</div>
</div>
<br clear=3D"none">
<div>
<div id=3D"gmail-m_431868257203317688yiv1764467264yqt17555">
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 12:13 PM Greg Blake via Fot &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"re=
ct" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><=
/div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>One of my experiences watching what happens when you don=E2=80=99t go =
two in.=C2=A0
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div><a href=3D"https://youtu.be/T7vsqHKaR7c"; rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" s=
hape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">https://youtu.be/T7vsqHKaR7c</a></div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>The MGB behind me was not so fortunate=C2=A0<br clear=3D"none">
<div><br clear=3D"none">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Dec 25, 20=
19, at 8:06 AM, Bob Kramer via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net=
" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.te=
am.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></blockquote></d=
iv>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Two feet in has its advantages=C2=A0</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<a href=3D"https://youtu.be/p27lXSehRY0"; rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=
=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">https://youtu.be/p27lXSehRY0</a><br clear=3D"no=
ne"><br clear=3D"none">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Dec 24, 20=
19, at 6:07 PM, Bill Tobin via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net=
" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.te=
am.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></blockquote></d=
iv>
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<div>Another variation on the saying: If you&#39;re going around it&#39;s b=
oth
      feet down.</div>

   =20
<div>Merry Christmas.</div>

   =20
<div>Bill<br clear=3D"none">
    </div>

   =20
<div>On 12/24/2019 7:00 PM, Greg Blake via
      Fot wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
    </div>

    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      Whenever you start to spin it=E2=80=99s two feet in. I=E2=80=99ve bee=
n in a few
      situations where other drivers have tried to save a spin by not
      following this advice and they always come rolling across the
      track backwards following an unpredictable path usually collecting
      a few unsuspecting racers along the way.=C2=A0 Always go two feet in.=
=C2=A0<br clear=3D"none">
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