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Aye Legge had a big one there=20
But a few decades earlier, long before that fencing was installed Teo Fabi
And a huge off near there in the can Am qualifying . He left his machine up=
in the trees =F0=9F=8C=B2 minus wheels . He climbed out of that one .
I asked him about that . Years latter ,when working the Detroit G P. =20
He thought a wee bit then a big grin came over his face and he offered in h=
is soft Italian accent .=E2=80=9C yea that was a big one =E2=80=9C
It=E2=80=99s good when we can laugh at this stuff
Awrabest Scottie
Yep the kink had a big pucker factor=20
> On Dec 26, 2019, at 12:35 PM, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> w=
rote:
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> =EF=BB=BF
> Yes, and if I recall I sure didn't expect her to walk away from that one..=
.but she did.
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> Bill Dentinger
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Kramer <rkramer56@gmail.com>
> To: Bill Dentinger <billdentin@aol.com>
> Cc: Mike Harmuth <ofracer@gmail.com>; Greg Blake <gblake58tr3@icloud.com>;=
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> Sent: Thu, Dec 26, 2019 4:56 am
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Two feet in. Re: A-Type Overdrive Testing
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> Wasn't there fence ripping accident on the back straight at RA? I think th=
at that was the Katherine Legge.
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> Bob Kramer
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> On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 1:13 PM Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot@autox.team.net=
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> Mike...
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> Great point. Many years ago when I first started Vintage Racing, the trac=
ks were 'forgiving'. If you made a mistake, you spun off mowing the lawn or=
creating a dust cloud. The only penalty was embarrassment. I'll never for=
get then one first spring event I showed up for at Road America and it was l=
ike I was in a street race, surrounded by Century Link Fencing.
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> I was told that as far as Road America was concerned CART had demanded it.=
CART was afraid one of their cars would leap the cement barriers/snow fenc=
ing and crash into the crowd. =20
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> No question that was a potential issue. The change was a good idea...but d=
rivers like me (prone to make errors) missed those 'forgiving' tracks.
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> Bill Dentinger
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> To: Greg Blake <gblake58tr3@icloud.com>
> Cc: FoTTriumph <fot@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wed, Dec 25, 2019 10:42 am
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Two feet in. Re: A-Type Overdrive Testing
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> You guys have a lot of nothing down there, sure makes it easier to avoid s=
tuff. At Watkins Glen, with the guardrails about one car width off the track=
, it's more like
> " If you spin, they're towing you in"
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> mike h
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>> On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 12:13 PM Greg Blake via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> w=
rote:
>> One of my experiences watching what happens when you don=E2=80=99t go two=
in.=20
>>=20
>> https://youtu.be/T7vsqHKaR7c
>>=20
>> The MGB behind me was not so fortunate=20
>>=20
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Dec 25, 2019, at 8:06 AM, Bob Kramer via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrot=
e:
>>=20
>> =EF=BB=BF
>>=20
>> Two feet in has its advantages=20
>>=20
>> https://youtu.be/p27lXSehRY0
>>=20
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>=20
>>> On Dec 24, 2019, at 6:07 PM, Bill Tobin via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wro=
te:
>>>=20
>>> =EF=BB=BF
>>> Another variation on the saying: If you're going around it's both feet d=
own.
>>> Merry Christmas.
>>> Bill
>>> On 12/24/2019 7:00 PM, Greg Blake via Fot wrote:
>>>> Whenever you start to spin it=E2=80=99s two feet in. I=E2=80=99ve been i=
n a few situations where other drivers have tried to save a spin by not foll=
owing this advice and they always come rolling across the track backwards fo=
llowing an unpredictable path usually collecting a few unsuspecting racers a=
long the way. Always go two feet in.=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Aye Legge had a big one there <div>But=
a few decades earlier, long before that fencing was installed Teo Fabi</div=
><div>And a huge off near there in the can Am qualifying . He left his=
machine up in the trees =F0=9F=8C=B2 minus wheels . He climbed out of that o=
ne .</div><div>I asked him about that . Years latter ,when working the Detro=
it G P. </div><div>He thought a wee bit then a big grin came over his f=
ace and he offered in his soft Italian accent .=E2=80=9C y=
ea that was a big one =E2=80=9C</div><div>It=E2=80=99s good when we can laug=
h at this stuff</div><div><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Awrabest Scottie</div><div id=
=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Yep the kink had a big pucker factor&nbs=
p;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Dec 26, 2019, at 1=
2:35 PM, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:<br><br></b=
lockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
<div style=3D"color:black;font: 10pt arial;">
<div>Yes, and if I recall I sure didn't expect her to walk away from that on=
e...but she did.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Bill Dentinger</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<br>
<br>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----O=
riginal Message-----<br>
From: Bob Kramer <rkramer56@gmail.com><br>
To: Bill Dentinger <billdentin@aol.com><br>
Cc: Mike Harmuth <ofracer@gmail.com>; Greg Blake <gblake58tr3@iclou=
d.com>; Fot <fot@autox.team.net><br>
Sent: Thu, Dec 26, 2019 4:56 am<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Two feet in. Re: A-Type Overdrive Testing<br>
<br>
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<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Wasn't there fence ripping accident on the back straight at=
RA? I think that that was the Katherine Legge.
<div><br clear=3D"all">
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv3134218386gmail_signature" dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Kramer</div>
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</div>
<br clear=3D"none"></div>
</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv3134218386yqt1902162767" id=3D"yiv3134218386yqt68431">
<div class=3D"yiv3134218386gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 1=
:13 PM Bill Dentinger via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; targ=
et=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:f=
ot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div=
>
<blockquote class=3D"yiv3134218386gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">
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<div>Mike...</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Great point. Many years ago when I first started Vintage Racing, t=
he tracks were 'forgiving'. If you made a mistake, you spun off mowing=
the lawn or creating a dust cloud. The only penalty was embarrassment=
. I'll never forget then one first spring event I showed up for at Roa=
d America and it was like I was in a street race, surrounded by Century Link=
Fencing.</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>I was told that as far as Road America was concerned CART had demanded i=
t. CART was afraid one of their cars would leap the cement barriers/sn=
ow fencing and crash into the crowd. </div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>No question that was a potential issue. The change was a good ide=
a...but drivers like me (prone to make errors) missed those 'forgiving' trac=
ks.</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Bill Dentinger</div>
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From: Mike Harmuth via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D=
"_blank" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@au=
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To: Greg Blake <<a href=3D"mailto:gblake58tr3@icloud.com"; target=3D"_blan=
k" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:gblake58tr3@=
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Sent: Wed, Dec 25, 2019 10:42 am<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: Re: [Fot] Two feet in. Re: A-Type Overdrive Testing<br clear=3D"non=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">You guys have a lot of nothing down there, sure makes it ea=
sier to avoid stuff. At Watkins Glen, with the guardrails about one car widt=
h off the track, it's more like
<div>" If you spin, they're towing you in"</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div>mike h</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 12:13 PM Greg Blake via Fot <<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener noreferr=
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<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,=
204,204);padding-left:1ex;">
<div>One of my experiences watching what happens when you don=E2=80=99t go t=
wo in.
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div><a href=3D"https://youtu.be/T7vsqHKaR7c"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noope=
ner noreferrer" shape=3D"rect">https://youtu.be/T7vsqHKaR7c</a></div>
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<div>The MGB behind me was not so fortunate <br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Dec 25, 201=
9, at 8:06 AM, Bob Kramer via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; t=
arget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailt=
o:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><b=
r clear=3D"none"></blockquote></div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div>Two feet in has its advantages </div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<a href=3D"https://youtu.be/p27lXSehRY0"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener n=
oreferrer" shape=3D"rect">https://youtu.be/p27lXSehRY0</a><br clear=3D"none"=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Dec 24, 201=
9, at 6:07 PM, Bill Tobin via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; t=
arget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailt=
o:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><b=
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<div>Another variation on the saying: If you're going around it's both
feet down.</div>
=20
<div>Merry Christmas.</div>
=20
<div>Bill<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
=20
<div>On 12/24/2019 7:00 PM, Greg Blake via
Fot wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
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Whenever you start to spin it=E2=80=99s two feet in. I=E2=80=99ve been=
in a few
situations where other drivers have tried to save a spin by not
following this advice and they always come rolling across the
track backwards following an unpredictable path usually collecting
a few unsuspecting racers along the way. Always go two feet in.&=
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