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[ https://youtube/pyhOVGBw3rg | https://youtube/pyhOVGBw3rg ]=20
[ https://youtube/ofR6plG_gwQ | https://youtube/ofR6plG_gwQ ]=20
[ https://youtube/WDfCc1QlbKO | https://youtube/WDfCc1QlbKO ]=20
[ https://youtube/6f57pyz9iiQ | https://youtube/6f57pyz9iiQ ]=20
This should be links to the Zandvoort races (The Netherlands) of September =
the 11th and 12th.=20
My friend Karl Chandeck drove the car all the time. He was very quick : pol=
e position on a grid of 48 cars! But in the race he went off in the 1st lap=
. That was a big disappointment of course. We repaired the car for the 2nd =
race. He had to start from last position(45th). After 4 laps he was in 7th =
position. Then some bad luck came in : the spring inside one of the Weber c=
arburettors broke and hindered the trottle shaft : the trottle stayed partl=
y open and it was impossible to drive the car like that. We did 2 attempts =
to fix it. After the 1st pit stop, Karl could do some more laps and got the=
 fastest overall laptime of the race with 2'00"490. Without the accident in=
 the first race, he could have finished 1st or 2nd. It's a pity. Karl is a =
very safe driver, he very seldom has a spin.=20
Some of these video's will only be available tomorrow and if the links don'=
t work, you simply can search in youtube with "Marcel Van Mulders".=20
Marcel.=20

Van: "van mulders marcel" <van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be>=20
Aan: "tr4racing" <tr4racing@googlemail.com>=20
Cc: "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>=20
Verzonden: Vrijdag 21 augustus 2020 09:24:13=20
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2=20

[ https://youtu.be/GP23e6fUosQ | https://youtu.be/GP23e6fUosQ ]=20
Some of you may have seen this video of my car at the Hockenheimring some w=
eeks ago : it was eating MG's with ease and also all the other cars except =
for a lightweight jaguar E-type and a very fast TVR/driver with TR6 engine.=
 So 2' 6" was good for 3rd position on the grid, only half a second slower =
than the TVR. The secret? IT WAS NOT ME AT THE WHEEL!! Karl Chandeck was dr=
iving for me : not a prof racer but very fast anyway. Sadly the engine brok=
e : holed engine block and big fire. I was always faster than the MG's but =
now being 68yrs old, I got slower and slower in the last couple of years wi=
thout noticing it. I thought it was my car and I worked on it, but I remain=
ed in the midfield instead of at the front where I used to be. My car getti=
ng faster and me getting slower : the result has been a steady state. With =
68yrs one hasn't to be slow, but for me it has turned out like that. But I =
hope it is not a definite fate and Karl is learning me to be faster again. =
We'll see if I'll succeed, if not, Karl will take over the driving complete=
ly. Next race is at Zandvoort on septembre the 12th. Watch this space!=20
Marcel=20


Van: "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>=20
Aan: "Michael Deweerd" <michaelndeweerd@gmail.com>, "tr4racing" <tr4racing@=
googlemail.com>=20
Cc: "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>=20
Verzonden: Donderdag 20 augustus 2020 19:20:57=20
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2=20



Forgot to mention, my engine has 178 hp, but the torque is the secret=E2=80=
=A6.225Nm.=20




Von: tr4racing@gmail.com <tr4racing@gmail.com>=20
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 19:18=20
An: 'Michael Deweerd' <michaelndeweerd@gmail.com>; 'tr4racing@googlemail.co=
m' <tr4racing@googlemail.com>=20
Cc: 'Kas Kastner' <kaskastner@gmail.com>; 'fot@autox. team. net' <fot@autox=
.team.net>=20
Betreff: AW: [Fot] Grattan race 2=20




Mike,=20



my engine is really nothing special.=20

Standard crank, standard valves, good ported head, good camshaft, Ford Rods=
 (I remember Tony has organized them for me), Phoenix exhaust head, 48 Webe=
rs, that=E2=80=99s all.=20

My car is handling great. With good brake pads the standard brakes do very =
fine. Cast iron drums at the rear, Swaybars at front and rear.=20

There you have it. From last to win (okay=E2=80=A6.I was sat back to 4 th b=
ecause I accidently overtook under yellow)=20

[ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DuaiCLm0yvV4 | https://www.youtube.com/w=
atch?v=3DuaiCLm0yvV4 ]=20



Cheers=20

Chris=20






Von: Michael Deweerd < [ mailto:michaelndeweerd@gmail.com | michaelndeweerd=
@gmail.com ] >=20
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 15:54=20
An: [ mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com | tr4racing@googlemail.com ]=20
Cc: Kas Kastner < [ mailto:kaskastner@gmail.com | kaskastner@gmail.com ] >;=
 fot@autox. team. net < [ mailto:fot@autox.team.net | fot@autox.team.net ] =
>=20
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2=20





Chris. I want what you have for breakfast!! 175-190hp ?? I=E2=80=99ve not h=
ad my new engine on a dyno but I don=E2=80=99t think I=E2=80=99ll have that=
 number Of ponies.=20


We should talk because there are some =E2=80=9Ckiller B=E2=80=99s=E2=80=9D =
here in Canada that need squashing lol=20


Mike=20








On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 9:26 AM Chris Marx via Fot < [ mailto:fot@autox.tea=
m.net | fot@autox.team.net ] > wrote:=20





Yep, MGs are lighter and I think they have a tiny advantage on tight corner=
s.=20

But Triumphs do better from my experience.=20

My TR4 with 88mm bore is doing quite well and is on most cases faster than =
a MG.=20



Cheers=20

Chris=20






Von: Kas Kastner < [ mailto:kaskastner@gmail.com | kaskastner@gmail.com ] >=
=20
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 15:11=20
An: MadMarx < [ mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com | tr4racing@googlemail.com =
] >=20
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2=20





I see the same thing here with good Mg's quicker than the TR-4 cars. EXCEPT=
 we have a couple TR-4's that are better prepared with the engine (bigger) =
and they are much better than the M.G.'s. I also think the MG's are a lot l=
ighter in weight for all seem very quick out of a corner. I also think that=
 the MG engine is a lot better design to start with than thee TR-4 engine. =
Way back in years I built MG engines and they were excellent in using high =
revs and very reliable.=20


Never be beaten by equipment.=20








On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 6:04 AM Chris Marx via Fot < [ mailto:fot@autox.tea=
m.net | fot@autox.team.net ] > wrote:=20

BQ_BEGIN



Very well driven.=20



Wondering why these MGs and Porsches are that quick?=20

Normally Triumphs eat MGs and Porsches for Breakfast ;-)=20



What power do they make?=20

Here in Europe MGs are in the 160Hp range, while TR 4s are about 175-190 Hp=
 range.=20



Cheers=20

Chris=20




On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 11:54 PM Tony Drews via Fot < [ mailto:fot@autox.te=
am.net | fot@autox.team.net ] > wrote:=20

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Another Grattan video. Fantastic battle with Scott Fohrman in an MGB=20

and Michael Moore in his beautiful red TR-4. 13 minutes of full-on racing.=
=20



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/*]]>*/</style></div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://youtube/pyhOVGB=
w3rg">https://youtube/pyhOVGBw3rg</a>&nbsp;</div><div><a href=3D"https://yo=
utube/ofR6plG_gwQ">https://youtube/ofR6plG_gwQ</a>&nbsp;</div><div><a href=
=3D"https://youtube/WDfCc1QlbKO";>https://youtube/WDfCc1QlbKO</a></div><div>=
<a href=3D"https://youtube/6f57pyz9iiQ";>https://youtube/6f57pyz9iiQ</a>&nbs=
p;</div><div>This should be links to the Zandvoort races (The Netherlands) =
of September the 11th and 12th.</div><div>My friend Karl Chandeck drove the=
 car all the time. He was very quick : pole position on a grid of 48 cars! =
But in the race he went off in the 1st lap. That was a big disappointment o=
f course. We repaired the car for the 2nd race. He had to start from last p=
osition(45th). After 4 laps he was in 7th position. Then some bad luck came=
 in : the spring inside one of the Weber carburettors broke and hindered th=
e trottle shaft : the trottle stayed partly open and it was impossible to d=
rive the car like that. We did 2 attempts to fix it. After the 1st pit stop=
, Karl could do some more laps and got the fastest overall laptime of the r=
ace with 2'00"490. Without the accident in the first race, he could have fi=
nished 1st or 2nd. It's a pity. Karl is a very safe driver, he very seldom =
has a spin.&nbsp;</div><div>Some of these video's will only be available to=
morrow and if the links don't work, you simply can search in youtube with "=
Marcel Van Mulders".</div><div>Marcel.</div><hr id=3D"zwchr" data-marker=3D=
"__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker=3D"__HEADERS__"><b>Van: </b>"van mulders mar=
cel" &lt;van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be&gt;<br><b>Aan: </b>"tr4racing" &lt;t=
r4racing@googlemail.com&gt;<br><b>Cc: </b>"fot" &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<=
br><b>Verzonden: </b>Vrijdag 21 augustus 2020 09:24:13<br><b>Onderwerp: </b=
>Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2<br></div><div><br></div><div data-marker=3D"__QUO=
TED_TEXT__"><div style=3D"font-family:'verdana' , 'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000"><div></div><div><a href=3D"https://=
youtu.be/GP23e6fUosQ" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer=
">https://youtu.be/GP23e6fUosQ</a><br></div><div>Some of you may have seen =
this video of my car at the Hockenheimring some weeks ago : it was eating M=
G's with ease and also all the other cars except for a lightweight jaguar E=
-type and a very fast TVR/driver with TR6 engine. So 2' 6" was good for 3rd=
 position on the grid, only half a second slower than the TVR. The secret? =
IT WAS NOT ME AT THE WHEEL!! Karl Chandeck was driving for me : not a prof =
racer but very fast anyway. Sadly the engine broke : holed engine block and=
 big fire. I was always faster than the MG's but now being 68yrs old, I got=
 slower and slower in the last couple of years without noticing it. I thoug=
ht it was my car and I worked on it, but I remained in the midfield instead=
 of at the front&nbsp; where I used to be. My car getting faster and me get=
ting slower : the result has been a steady state. With 68yrs one hasn't to =
be slow, but for me it has turned out like that. But I hope it is not a def=
inite fate and Karl is learning me to be faster again. We'll see if I'll su=
cceed, if not, Karl will take over the driving completely. Next race is at =
Zandvoort on septembre the 12th. Watch this space!</div><div>Marcel</div><b=
r><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div><b>Van: </b>"fot" &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>=
Aan: </b>"Michael Deweerd" &lt;michaelndeweerd@gmail.com&gt;, "tr4racing" &=
lt;tr4racing@googlemail.com&gt;<br><b>Cc: </b>"fot" &lt;fot@autox.team.net&=
gt;<br><b>Verzonden: </b>Donderdag 20 augustus 2020 19:20:57<br><b>Onderwer=
p: </b>Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2<br></div><br><div><div class=3D"WordSection=
1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Forgot to mention, my engine has 178 hp, but the =
torque is the secret=E2=80=A6.225Nm.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><d=
iv><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1pt;padding:3pt 0cm 0=
cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"DE">Von:</span></b><span la=
ng=3D"DE"> tr4racing@gmail.com &lt;tr4racing@gmail.com&gt; <br><b>Gesendet:=
</b> Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 19:18<br><b>An:</b> 'Michael Deweerd' &lt;=
michaelndeweerd@gmail.com&gt;; 'tr4racing@googlemail.com' &lt;tr4racing@goo=
glemail.com&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Kas Kastner' &lt;kaskastner@gmail.com&gt;; '=
fot@autox. team. net' &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Betreff:</b> AW: [Fo=
t] Grattan race 2</span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"DE">Mike,</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span lang=3D"DE">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">my engine is r=
eally nothing special.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Standard crank, standard v=
alves, good ported head, good camshaft, Ford Rods (I remember Tony has orga=
nized them for me), Phoenix exhaust head, 48 Webers, that=E2=80=99s all.</p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal">My car is handling great. With good brake pads the =
standard brakes do very fine. Cast iron drums at the rear, Swaybars at fron=
t and rear.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">There you have it. From last to win (=
okay=E2=80=A6.I was sat back to 4<sup>th</sup> because I accidently overtoo=
k under yellow)</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://www.youtube.co=
m/watch?v=3DuaiCLm0yvV4" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noope=
ner noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DuaiCLm0=
yvV4</a></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers<=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Chris</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e=
1 1pt;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"DE">=
Von:</span></b><span lang=3D"DE"> Michael Deweerd &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mic=
haelndeweerd@gmail.com" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopen=
er noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">michaelndeweerd@gmail.com</a>&gt; <br><b>G=
esendet:</b> Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 15:54<br><b>An:</b> <a href=3D"mai=
lto:tr4racing@googlemail.com" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow =
noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">tr4racing@googlemail.com</a><br><b>C=
c:</b> Kas Kastner &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kaskastner@gmail.com"; rel=3D"nofol=
low noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">kas=
kastner@gmail.com</a>&gt;; fot@autox. team. net &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@a=
utox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener norefe=
rrer" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [=
Fot] Grattan race 2</span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Chris. I want what you have for breakfast!! &nbs=
p;175-190hp ?? I=E2=80=99ve not had my new engine on a dyno but I don=E2=80=
=99t think I=E2=80=99ll have that number Of ponies.&nbsp;</p></div></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal">We should talk because there are some =E2=80=9Cki=
ller B=E2=80=99s=E2=80=9D here in Canada that need squashing lol&nbsp;</p><=
/div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Mike&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal">&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 9:26 AM Chris Marx via Fot &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer nof=
ollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wro=
te:</p></div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1pt=
;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5pt;margin-right:0cm;=
margin-bottom:5pt"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Yep, MGs are lighter an=
d I think they have a tiny advantage on tight corners.</p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal">But Triumphs do better from my experience.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
My TR4 with 88mm bore is doing quite well and is on most cases faster than =
a MG.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers</p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Chris</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1=
 1pt;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"DE">V=
on:</span></b><span lang=3D"DE"> Kas Kastner &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kaskastn=
er@gmail.com" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener norefer=
rer" target=3D"_blank">kaskastner@gmail.com</a>&gt; <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Do=
nnerstag, 20. August 2020 15:11<br><b>An:</b> MadMarx &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:tr4racing@googlemail.com" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noo=
pener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br><b>=
Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2</span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
">&nbsp;</p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I see the same thing here with&nbsp=
;good Mg's quicker than&nbsp;the TR-4 cars.&nbsp; EXCEPT&nbsp;we have a cou=
ple TR-4's that are better prepared&nbsp;with the engine&nbsp;(bigger) and =
they are much better than the M.G.'s.&nbsp; I also think &nbsp;the MG's are=
&nbsp; a lot lighter&nbsp;in weight&nbsp;for all seem very quick out of a c=
orner. I also think that the MG engine is a lot better design to start with=
 than thee TR-4 engine.&nbsp; Way back in years I built MG engines&nbsp;and=
 they were excellent in using high revs and very reliable.<br clear=3D"all"=
></p><div><div><p><strong><span style=3D"font-family:'calibri' , sans-serif=
;color:#000099">Never be beaten by equipment.</span></strong></p></div></di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><=
/div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 =
at 6:04 AM Chris Marx via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; rel=
=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_b=
lank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</p></div></div></div></div><div><di=
v><div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1pt;paddi=
ng:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5pt;margin-right:0cm;margin=
-bottom:5pt"><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Very well driven.</p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Wondering why these MG=
s and Porsches are that quick?</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Normally Triumphs =
eat MGs and Porsches for Breakfast ;-)</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">What power do they make?</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">H=
ere in Europe MGs are in the 160Hp range, while TR 4s are about 175-190 Hp =
range.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers</p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Chris</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 11:54 PM Tony Drews via Fot=
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ccc 1pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5pt;margin-rig=
ht:0cm;margin-bottom:5pt"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12p=
t">Another Grattan video.&nbsp; Fantastic battle with Scott Fohrman in an M=
GB <br><br>and Michael Moore in his beautiful red TR-4.&nbsp; 13 minutes of=
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