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Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Grattan race 2
From: "van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot" <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 19:51:38 +0200 (CEST)
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3rd attempt:=20
[ https://youtu.be/pyhOVGBw3rg | https://youtu.be/pyhOVGBw3rg ]=20
[ https://youtu.be/ofR6plG_gwQ | https://youtu.be/ofR6plG_gwQ ]=20
https://youtu.be/WDfCc1QlbKO=20
https://youtu.be/6f57pyz9iiQ=20

Van: "van mulders marcel" <van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be>=20
Aan: "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>=20
Cc: "van mulders marcel" <van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be>=20
Verzonden: Zondag 13 september 2020 19:42:40=20
Onderwerp: Fwd: [Fot] Grattan race 2=20

[ https://youtu.be/pyhOVGBw3rg | https://youtu.be/pyhOVGBw3rg ]=20
[ https://youtube/ofR6plG_gwQ | https://youtu.be/ofR6plG_gwQ ]=20
[ https://youtube/WDfCc1QlbKO | https://youtu.be/WDfCc1QlbKO ]=20
[ https://youtube/6f57pyz9iiQ | https://youtu.be/6f57pyz9iiQ ]=20
Thes links should be right.=20


Van: "van mulders marcel" <van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be>=20
Aan: "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>=20
Cc: "van mulders marcel" <van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be>=20
Verzonden: Zondag 13 september 2020 19:37:50=20
Onderwerp: Fwd: [Fot] Grattan race 2=20


[ https://youtube/pyhOVGBw3rg | https://youtu.be/pyhOVGBw3rg ]=20
[ https://youtube/ofR6plG_gwQ | https://youtube/ofR6plG_gwQ ]=20
[ https://youtube/WDfCc1QlbKO | https://youtube/WDfCc1QlbKO ]=20
[ https://youtube/6f57pyz9iiQ | https://youtube/6f57pyz9iiQ ]=20
This should be links to the Zandvoort races (The Netherlands) of September =
the 11th and 12th.=20
My friend Karl Chandeck drove the car all the time. He was very quick : pol=
e position on a grid of 48 cars! But in the race he went off in the 1st lap=
. That was a big disappointment of course. We repaired the car for the 2nd =
race. He had to start from last position(45th). After 4 laps he was in 7th =
position. Then some bad luck came in : the spring inside one of the Weber c=
arburettors broke and hindered the trottle shaft : the trottle stayed partl=
y open and it was impossible to drive the car like that. We did 2 attempts =
to fix it. After the 1st pit stop, Karl could do some more laps and got the=
 fastest overall laptime of the race with 2'00"490. Without the accident in=
 the first race, he could have finished 1st or 2nd. It's a pity. Karl is a =
very safe driver, he very seldom has a spin.=20
Some of these video's will only be available tomorrow and if the links don'=
t work, you simply can search in youtube with "Marcel Van Mulders".=20
Marcel.=20

Van: "van mulders marcel" <van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be>=20
Aan: "tr4racing" <tr4racing@googlemail.com>=20
Cc: "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>=20
Verzonden: Vrijdag 21 augustus 2020 09:24:13=20
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2=20

[ https://youtu.be/GP23e6fUosQ | https://youtu.be/GP23e6fUosQ ]=20
Some of you may have seen this video of my car at the Hockenheimring some w=
eeks ago : it was eating MG's with ease and also all the other cars except =
for a lightweight jaguar E-type and a very fast TVR/driver with TR6 engine.=
 So 2' 6" was good for 3rd position on the grid, only half a second slower =
than the TVR. The secret? IT WAS NOT ME AT THE WHEEL!! Karl Chandeck was dr=
iving for me : not a prof racer but very fast anyway. Sadly the engine brok=
e : holed engine block and big fire. I was always faster than the MG's but =
now being 68yrs old, I got slower and slower in the last couple of years wi=
thout noticing it. I thought it was my car and I worked on it, but I remain=
ed in the midfield instead of at the front where I used to be. My car getti=
ng faster and me getting slower : the result has been a steady state. With =
68yrs one hasn't to be slow, but for me it has turned out like that. But I =
hope it is not a definite fate and Karl is learning me to be faster again. =
We'll see if I'll succeed, if not, Karl will take over the driving complete=
ly. Next race is at Zandvoort on septembre the 12th. Watch this space!=20
Marcel=20


Van: "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>=20
Aan: "Michael Deweerd" <michaelndeweerd@gmail.com>, "tr4racing" <tr4racing@=
googlemail.com>=20
Cc: "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>=20
Verzonden: Donderdag 20 augustus 2020 19:20:57=20
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2=20



Forgot to mention, my engine has 178 hp, but the torque is the secret=E2=80=
=A6.225Nm.=20




Von: tr4racing@gmail.com <tr4racing@gmail.com>=20
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 19:18=20
An: 'Michael Deweerd' <michaelndeweerd@gmail.com>; 'tr4racing@googlemail.co=
m' <tr4racing@googlemail.com>=20
Cc: 'Kas Kastner' <kaskastner@gmail.com>; 'fot@autox. team. net' <fot@autox=
.team.net>=20
Betreff: AW: [Fot] Grattan race 2=20




Mike,=20



my engine is really nothing special.=20

Standard crank, standard valves, good ported head, good camshaft, Ford Rods=
 (I remember Tony has organized them for me), Phoenix exhaust head, 48 Webe=
rs, that=E2=80=99s all.=20

My car is handling great. With good brake pads the standard brakes do very =
fine. Cast iron drums at the rear, Swaybars at front and rear.=20

There you have it. From last to win (okay=E2=80=A6.I was sat back to 4 th b=
ecause I accidently overtook under yellow)=20

[ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DuaiCLm0yvV4 | https://www.youtube.com/w=
atch?v=3DuaiCLm0yvV4 ]=20



Cheers=20

Chris=20






Von: Michael Deweerd < [ mailto:michaelndeweerd@gmail.com | michaelndeweerd=
@gmail.com ] >=20
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 15:54=20
An: [ mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com | tr4racing@googlemail.com ]=20
Cc: Kas Kastner < [ mailto:kaskastner@gmail.com | kaskastner@gmail.com ] >;=
 fot@autox. team. net < [ mailto:fot@autox.team.net | fot@autox.team.net ] =
>=20
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2=20





Chris. I want what you have for breakfast!! 175-190hp ?? I=E2=80=99ve not h=
ad my new engine on a dyno but I don=E2=80=99t think I=E2=80=99ll have that=
 number Of ponies.=20


We should talk because there are some =E2=80=9Ckiller B=E2=80=99s=E2=80=9D =
here in Canada that need squashing lol=20


Mike=20








On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 9:26 AM Chris Marx via Fot < [ mailto:fot@autox.tea=
m.net | fot@autox.team.net ] > wrote:=20





Yep, MGs are lighter and I think they have a tiny advantage on tight corner=
s.=20

But Triumphs do better from my experience.=20

My TR4 with 88mm bore is doing quite well and is on most cases faster than =
a MG.=20



Cheers=20

Chris=20






Von: Kas Kastner < [ mailto:kaskastner@gmail.com | kaskastner@gmail.com ] >=
=20
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 15:11=20
An: MadMarx < [ mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com | tr4racing@googlemail.com =
] >=20
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2=20





I see the same thing here with good Mg's quicker than the TR-4 cars. EXCEPT=
 we have a couple TR-4's that are better prepared with the engine (bigger) =
and they are much better than the M.G.'s. I also think the MG's are a lot l=
ighter in weight for all seem very quick out of a corner. I also think that=
 the MG engine is a lot better design to start with than thee TR-4 engine. =
Way back in years I built MG engines and they were excellent in using high =
revs and very reliable.=20


Never be beaten by equipment.=20








On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 6:04 AM Chris Marx via Fot < [ mailto:fot@autox.tea=
m.net | fot@autox.team.net ] > wrote:=20

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Very well driven.=20



Wondering why these MGs and Porsches are that quick?=20

Normally Triumphs eat MGs and Porsches for Breakfast ;-)=20



What power do they make?=20

Here in Europe MGs are in the 160Hp range, while TR 4s are about 175-190 Hp=
 range.=20



Cheers=20

Chris=20




On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 11:54 PM Tony Drews via Fot < [ mailto:fot@autox.te=
am.net | fot@autox.team.net ] > wrote:=20

BQ_BEGIN


Another Grattan video. Fantastic battle with Scott Fohrman in an MGB=20

and Michael Moore in his beautiful red TR-4. 13 minutes of full-on racing.=
=20



[ https://youtu.be/m3kUFUW_t9c | https://youtu.be/m3kUFUW_t9c ]=20



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/*]]>*/</style></div><div><br></div><div>3rd attempt:</div><div><a href=3D"=
https://youtu.be/pyhOVGBw3rg";>https://youtu.be/pyhOVGBw3rg</a>&nbsp;</div><=
div><a href=3D"https://youtu.be/ofR6plG_gwQ";>https://youtu.be/ofR6plG_gwQ</=
a>&nbsp;</div><div>https://youtu.be/WDfCc1QlbKO</div><div>https://youtu.be/=
6f57pyz9iiQ</div><hr id=3D"zwchr" data-marker=3D"__DIVIDER__"><div data-mar=
ker=3D"__HEADERS__"><b>Van: </b>"van mulders marcel" &lt;van.mulders.marcel=
@telenet.be&gt;<br><b>Aan: </b>"fot" &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Cc: <=
/b>"van mulders marcel" &lt;van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be&gt;<br><b>Verzond=
en: </b>Zondag 13 september 2020 19:42:40<br><b>Onderwerp: </b>Fwd: [Fot] G=
rattan race 2<br></div><div><br></div><div data-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__">=
<div style=3D"font-family:'verdana' , 'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:10pt;color:#000000"><div></div><div> <div style=3D"color:#000000;fo=
nt-family:'verdana' , 'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:13.3333p=
x;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;t=
ext-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:#ff=
ffff"><a href=3D"https://youtu.be/pyhOVGBw3rg"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nof=
ollow noopener noreferrer">https://youtu.be/pyhOVGBw3rg</a>&nbsp;</div><div=
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s-serif;font-size:13.3333px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacin=
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g:0px;background-color:#ffffff"><a href=3D"https://youtube/ofR6plG_gwQ"; rel=
=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" style=3D"col=
or:blue;text-decoration:underline" target=3D"_blank">https://youtu.be/ofR6p=
lG_gwQ</a>&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'verdana' , '=
arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px;font-style:normal;fon=
t-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;whit=
e-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:#ffffff"><a href=3D"https:=
//youtube/WDfCc1QlbKO" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopene=
r noreferrer" style=3D"color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target=3D"_bla=
nk">https://youtu.be/WDfCc1QlbKO</a></div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-=
family:'verdana' , 'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px;f=
ont-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text=
-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:#fffff=
f"><a href=3D"https://youtube/6f57pyz9iiQ"; rel=3D"nofollow noopener norefer=
rer nofollow noopener noreferrer" style=3D"color:blue;text-decoration:under=
line" target=3D"_blank">https://youtu.be/6f57pyz9iiQ</a>&nbsp;</div><div st=
yle=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'verdana' , 'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-s=
erif;font-size:13.3333px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;background-color:#ffffff">Thes links should be right.</div> </div><br><h=
r id=3D"zwchr"><div><b>Van: </b>"van mulders marcel" &lt;van.mulders.marcel=
@telenet.be&gt;<br><b>Aan: </b>"fot" &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Cc: <=
/b>"van mulders marcel" &lt;van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be&gt;<br><b>Verzond=
en: </b>Zondag 13 september 2020 19:37:50<br><b>Onderwerp: </b>Fwd: [Fot] G=
rattan race 2<br></div><br><div><div style=3D"font-family:'verdana' , 'aria=
l' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000"><br><div><a hre=
f=3D"https://youtube/pyhOVGBw3rg"; rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer nofol=
low noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://youtu.be/pyhOVGBw3rg</a>=
&nbsp;</div><div><a href=3D"https://youtube/ofR6plG_gwQ"; rel=3D"nofollow no=
opener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://y=
outube/ofR6plG_gwQ</a>&nbsp;</div><div><a href=3D"https://youtube/WDfCc1Qlb=
KO" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" targe=
t=3D"_blank">https://youtube/WDfCc1QlbKO</a></div><div><a href=3D"https://y=
outube/6f57pyz9iiQ" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener n=
oreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://youtube/6f57pyz9iiQ</a>&nbsp;</div><di=
v>This should be links to the Zandvoort races (The Netherlands) of Septembe=
r the 11th and 12th.</div><div>My friend Karl Chandeck drove the car all th=
e time. He was very quick : pole position on a grid of 48 cars! But in the =
race he went off in the 1st lap. That was a big disappointment of course. W=
e repaired the car for the 2nd race. He had to start from last position(45t=
h). After 4 laps he was in 7th position. Then some bad luck came in : the s=
pring inside one of the Weber carburettors broke and hindered the trottle s=
haft : the trottle stayed partly open and it was impossible to drive the ca=
r like that. We did 2 attempts to fix it. After the 1st pit stop, Karl coul=
d do some more laps and got the fastest overall laptime of the race with 2'=
00"490. Without the accident in the first race, he could have finished 1st =
or 2nd. It's a pity. Karl is a very safe driver, he very seldom has a spin.=
&nbsp;</div><div>Some of these video's will only be available tomorrow and =
if the links don't work, you simply can search in youtube with "Marcel Van =
Mulders".</div><div>Marcel.</div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div><b>Van: </b>"van mul=
ders marcel" &lt;van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be&gt;<br><b>Aan: </b>"tr4racin=
g" &lt;tr4racing@googlemail.com&gt;<br><b>Cc: </b>"fot" &lt;fot@autox.team.=
net&gt;<br><b>Verzonden: </b>Vrijdag 21 augustus 2020 09:24:13<br><b>Onderw=
erp: </b>Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2<br></div><br><div><div style=3D"font-fami=
ly:'verdana' , 'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000=
000"><div><a href=3D"https://youtu.be/GP23e6fUosQ"; rel=3D"nofollow noopener=
 noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" targ=
et=3D"_blank">https://youtu.be/GP23e6fUosQ</a><br></div><div>Some of you ma=
y have seen this video of my car at the Hockenheimring some weeks ago : it =
was eating MG's with ease and also all the other cars except for a lightwei=
ght jaguar E-type and a very fast TVR/driver with TR6 engine. So 2' 6" was =
good for 3rd position on the grid, only half a second slower than the TVR. =
The secret? IT WAS NOT ME AT THE WHEEL!! Karl Chandeck was driving for me :=
 not a prof racer but very fast anyway. Sadly the engine broke : holed engi=
ne block and big fire. I was always faster than the MG's but now being 68yr=
s old, I got slower and slower in the last couple of years without noticing=
 it. I thought it was my car and I worked on it, but I remained in the midf=
ield instead of at the front&nbsp; where I used to be. My car getting faste=
r and me getting slower : the result has been a steady state. With 68yrs on=
e hasn't to be slow, but for me it has turned out like that. But I hope it =
is not a definite fate and Karl is learning me to be faster again. We'll se=
e if I'll succeed, if not, Karl will take over the driving completely. Next=
 race is at Zandvoort on septembre the 12th. Watch this space!</div><div>Ma=
rcel</div><br><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div><b>Van: </b>"fot" &lt;fot@autox.team.ne=
t&gt;<br><b>Aan: </b>"Michael Deweerd" &lt;michaelndeweerd@gmail.com&gt;, "=
tr4racing" &lt;tr4racing@googlemail.com&gt;<br><b>Cc: </b>"fot" &lt;fot@aut=
ox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Verzonden: </b>Donderdag 20 augustus 2020 19:20:57<br=
><b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2<br></div><br><div><div class=3D=
"WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Forgot to mention, my engine has 178 =
hp, but the torque is the secret=E2=80=A6.225Nm.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
&nbsp;</p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1pt;paddi=
ng:3pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"DE">Von:</span>=
</b><span lang=3D"DE"> tr4racing@gmail.com &lt;tr4racing@gmail.com&gt; <br>=
<b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 19:18<br><b>An:</b> 'Michael D=
eweerd' &lt;michaelndeweerd@gmail.com&gt;; 'tr4racing@googlemail.com' &lt;t=
r4racing@googlemail.com&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Kas Kastner' &lt;kaskastner@gmai=
l.com&gt;; 'fot@autox. team. net' &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Betreff:=
</b> AW: [Fot] Grattan race 2</span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"DE">Mike,</span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"DE">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">my=
 engine is really nothing special.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Standard crank=
, standard valves, good ported head, good camshaft, Ford Rods (I remember T=
ony has organized them for me), Phoenix exhaust head, 48 Webers, that=E2=80=
=99s all.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">My car is handling great. With good bra=
ke pads the standard brakes do very fine. Cast iron drums at the rear, Sway=
bars at front and rear.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">There you have it. From l=
ast to win (okay=E2=80=A6.I was sat back to 4<sup>th</sup> because I accide=
ntly overtook under yellow)</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://ww=
w.youtube.com/watch?v=3DuaiCLm0yvV4" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer no=
follow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener n=
oreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DuaiCLm0yvV4<=
/a></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers</p><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal">Chris</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1pt=
;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"DE">Von:<=
/span></b><span lang=3D"DE"> Michael Deweerd &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michaeln=
deweerd@gmail.com" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener no=
referrer nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">michaelndeweerd@gmail.com</a>&gt; <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerst=
ag, 20. August 2020 15:54<br><b>An:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlem=
ail.com" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer n=
ofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"=
>tr4racing@googlemail.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> Kas Kastner &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:kaskastner@gmail.com" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noope=
ner noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" t=
arget=3D"_blank">kaskastner@gmail.com</a>&gt;; fot@autox. team. net &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer nofo=
llow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener nor=
eferrer" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re=
: [Fot] Grattan race 2</span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Chris. I want what you have for breakfast!! &=
nbsp;175-190hp ?? I=E2=80=99ve not had my new engine on a dyno but I don=E2=
=80=99t think I=E2=80=99ll have that number Of ponies.&nbsp;</p></div></div=
><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">We should talk because there are some =E2=80=
=9Ckiller B=E2=80=99s=E2=80=9D here in Canada that need squashing lol&nbsp;=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Mike&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div><div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 9:26 AM Chris Marx via Fot &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferre=
r nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopen=
er noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</p></div=
><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1pt;padding:0cm=
 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-botto=
m:5pt"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Yep, MGs are lighter and I think th=
ey have a tiny advantage on tight corners.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">But Tr=
iumphs do better from my experience.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">My TR4 with =
88mm bore is doing quite well and is on most cases faster than a MG.</p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers</p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal">Chris</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
>&nbsp;</p><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1pt;padding:3=
pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"DE">Von:</span></b>=
<span lang=3D"DE"> Kas Kastner &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kaskastner@gmail.com"; =
rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow n=
oopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">kaskastn=
er@gmail.com</a>&gt; <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 15:11=
<br><b>An:</b> MadMarx &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com"; rel=
=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noop=
ener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">tr4racing@g=
ooglemail.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2</span></p=
></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I see t=
he same thing here with&nbsp;good Mg's quicker than&nbsp;the TR-4 cars.&nbs=
p; EXCEPT&nbsp;we have a couple TR-4's that are better prepared&nbsp;with t=
he engine&nbsp;(bigger) and they are much better than the M.G.'s.&nbsp; I a=
lso think &nbsp;the MG's are&nbsp; a lot lighter&nbsp;in weight&nbsp;for al=
l seem very quick out of a corner. I also think that the MG engine is a lot=
 better design to start with than thee TR-4 engine.&nbsp; Way back in years=
 I built MG engines&nbsp;and they were excellent in using high revs and ver=
y reliable.<br clear=3D"all"></p><div><div><p><strong><span style=3D"font-f=
amily:'calibri' , sans-serif;color:#000099">Never be beaten by equipment.</=
span></strong></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal">On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 6:04 AM Chris Marx via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:fot@autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noope=
ner noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" t=
arget=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</p></div></div></div></d=
iv><div><div><div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #ccccc=
c 1pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5pt;margin-right=
:0cm;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Very well dri=
ven.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Wondering w=
hy these MGs and Porsches are that quick?</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Normall=
y Triumphs eat MGs and Porsches for Breakfast ;-)</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
>&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">What power do they make?</p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">Here in Europe MGs are in the 160Hp range, while TR 4s are about =
175-190 Hp range.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
">Cheers</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Chris</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</=
p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 11:54 PM Tony Dr=
ews via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow noope=
ner noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer no=
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ote:</p></div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1p=
t;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5pt;margin-right:0cm=
;margin-bottom:5pt"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">Ano=
ther Grattan video.&nbsp; Fantastic battle with Scott Fohrman in an MGB <br=
><br>and Michael Moore in his beautiful red TR-4.&nbsp; 13 minutes of full-=
on racing.<br><br><br><br><a href=3D"https://youtu.be/m3kUFUW_t9c"; rel=3D"n=
ofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener =
noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://youtu.be=
/m3kUFUW_t9c</a><br><br><br><br>Cheers, Tony Drews<br><br><br><br>_________=
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