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Re: [Fot] Maxpeedingrods

To: Jim Gray <toodamnfunky@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Maxpeedingrods
From: Enquiries Road & Track via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2020 16:09:25 +1000
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i have a special con-rod re-sizing machine, its not a hone, but a grinder,
so we can get them perfect. Most production rods are honed and thats good
enough for most applications, but not if you are chasing perfection. Also,
hand honing on a machine designed for general applications like brake
cylinders etc , can be a disaster as they can looks good, but actually be
barrel shaped

Terry



On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 11:28 AM Jim Gray <toodamnfunky@comcast.net> wrote:

> I=E2=80=99ve used them for 10 years with no problems. That said I run a 6=
200 rpm
> motor but have had it to 7K when I forgot to
>
> set a rev limiter and had a screeching 914/6 right next to me. ( as I was
> going by )
>
> If your going to use them have the big ends checked for round and the
> wrist pins sized or at least checked.
>
> I didn=E2=80=99t have any problem but I did hear a report from someone th=
at the
> big ends on theirs weren=E2=80=99t perfectly round but correctable.
>
> jim g
>
>
>
> *From:* Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Enquiries Road &
> Track via Fot
> *Sent:* Friday, September 18, 2020 3:37 PM
> *To:* Phil Gott <vfracing@aol.com>
> *Cc:* Friends Of Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Maxpeedingrods
>
>
>
> yes, we used quite a few sets in our engine shop for high HP jap engines,
> never triumph. quality seems reasonable. the only on-going issue we found
> with cheap chinese rods like this is the big end tunnel is imperfectly
> honed. it was not uncommon to have to re-size them. in fact we did a few
> hundred for one importer at one time. we were never able to confirm if th=
e
> bolts were really ARP, or just copies
>
>
>
> i know of a factory in Taiwan that lists thousands of different sets ,
> including various TR rods, and will brand them with whatever name/logo yo=
u
> want. their wholesale price is typcially US$45/rod, bought in quantities
> like 50. They will provide steel specs if asked. They have some real
> oddities , like 1mm longer or shorter for various applications, so its
> obvious they make for performance applications, not just replacement for
> mom and dad shopping carts
>
>
>
> Terry
>
> Australia
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 3:58 AM Phil Gott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> Has anyone used these? They look like Carrillo knockoffs. 4340 steel, ARP
> bolts, shotpeened. Priced right.
> Phil Gott
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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<div dir=3D"ltr">i have a special con-rod re-sizing machine, its not a hone=
, but a grinder, so we can get them perfect. Most production rods are honed=
 and thats good enough=C2=A0for most applications, but not if you are chasi=
ng perfection. Also, hand honing on a machine designed for general applicat=
ions like brake cylinders etc , can be a disaster as they can looks good, b=
ut actually be barrel shaped<div><br></div><div>Terry<br clear=3D"all"><div=
><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signatu=
re"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></div></di=
v></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><=
br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gma=
il_attr">On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 11:28 AM Jim Gray &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:to=
odamnfunky@comcast.net">toodamnfunky@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-le=
ft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail-m_-494601468647823749WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=
=80=99ve used them for 10 years with no problems. That said I run a 6200 rp=
m motor but have had it to 7K when I forgot to <u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">set a rev limiter and had a screeching 914/6 right next to m=
e. ( as I was going by )<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">If your go=
ing to use them have the big ends checked for round and the wrist pins size=
d or at least checked.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I didn=E2=80=
=99t have any problem but I did hear a report from someone that the big end=
s on theirs weren=E2=80=99t perfectly round but correctable.<u></u><u></u><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">jim g<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u>=
</u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;bor=
der-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <b>On Beh=
alf Of </b>Enquiries Road &amp; Track via Fot<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, Septe=
mber 18, 2020 3:37 PM<br><b>To:</b> Phil Gott &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:vfracin=
g@aol.com" target=3D"_blank">vfracing@aol.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> Friends=
 Of Triumph &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot=
@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Maxpeedingrods<u></u><=
u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal">yes, we used quite a few sets in our engine shop for high H=
P jap engines, never triumph. quality=C2=A0seems reasonable. the only on-go=
ing issue we found with cheap chinese rods like this is the big end tunnel =
is imperfectly honed. it was not uncommon to have to re-size them. in fact =
we did a few hundred=C2=A0for one importer at one time. we were never able =
to confirm if the bolts were really ARP, or just copies<u></u><u></u></p><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">i know of a factory in Taiwan that lists thousands=C2=A0of differe=
nt sets , including various TR rods, and will brand them with whatever name=
/logo you want. their wholesale price is typcially=C2=A0US$45/rod, bought=
=C2=A0in quantities like 50. They will provide steel specs if asked. They h=
ave some real oddities , like 1mm longer or shorter for various application=
s, so its obvious they make for performance applications, not just replacem=
ent for mom and dad shopping carts<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Terry<u></u>=
<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Australia<u></u><u></u></p></d=
iv></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 3:58 AM Phil Gott via Fot &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</=
a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;b=
order-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);=
padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">Has anyone used these? They look like =
Carrillo knockoffs. 4340 steel, ARP bolts, shotpeened. Priced right.<br>Phi=
l Gott<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<br>______________________________________=
_________<br><a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot@au=
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