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Re: [Fot] [TR] Sealants used on Fo8 gaskets

To: Phil Gott <vfracing@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] Sealants used on Fo8 gaskets
From: Joe Boruch via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2021 22:02:35 +0000 (UTC)
Cc: Friends Of Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
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 Phil, how are you using the Anearobic sealant? Are you still using felt, o=
r are you filling the gap where the felt would be with the Anearobic sealan=
t?=C2=A0 =C2=A0JoeB.
    On Monday, February 8, 2021, 04:28:25 PM EST, Phil Gott via Fot <fot@au=
tox.team.net> wrote: =20
=20
 Joe;We=E2=80=99ve used the two of them together in two different engines. =
The Permatex was washed away from the rear main seal cap sides in both case=
s.In fairness, in that application it takes a very long time to dry, and so=
 it may have not set completely before we ran the engine. But we never had =
that issue until using the Driven synthetic oil. Which, BTW, seems to be re=
ally good stuff! =C2=A0Thanks to Ken Knight for =C2=A0the recommendation.We=
=E2=80=99ve switched to Permatex Anaerobic sealant and it works very well. =
Much easier than soaked felt....Phil Gott

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 8, 2021, at 4:20 PM, Joe Boruch <jaboruch@yahoo.com> wrote:



=EF=BB=BF Thanks David.=C2=A0 Driven says that their oils should not cause =
your issue, but they think you may have an issue with fuel dilution.=C2=A0 =
They did suggest not to use the Aviation Permatex, since it can be affected=
 by aromatic solvents (which is what gasoline is).=C2=A0 I looked at the in=
structions for Permatex Indian Head gasket shellac and it does not say that=
 it is affected by aromatic solvents.=C2=A0 The instructions for Aviation P=
ermatex say that is affected by aromatic solvents.=C2=A0 Looks like for my =
next build that I will go back to using Indian Head (if it has not been dee=
med to be un PC by then).=C2=A0=C2=A0
Thanks for bringing this issue to light.=C2=A0 Joe B.


    On Monday, February 8, 2021, 02:57:29 PM EST, David Gott <triumphsix@ya=
hoo.com> wrote: =20
=20
 Hi Joe,
Here=E2=80=99s some pictures of the felts in my engine after being washed c=
lean by Driven XP3. =C2=A0You can see the cement is washed out of the felts=
 upon removal, and also the permatex parted along the seam of the block/cap=
. =C2=A0 Never happened before running the oil. =C2=A0Hondabond held up jus=
t fine afterwards.





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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Phil, how are you using the =
Anearobic sealant? Are you still using felt, or are you filling the gap whe=
re the felt would be with the Anearobic sealant?&nbsp; &nbsp;JoeB.</div><di=
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                    On Monday, February 8, 2021, 04:28:25 PM EST, Phil Gott=
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                <div><div id=3D"ydp6edb2764yiv6266475226"><div>Joe;<div>We=
=E2=80=99ve used the two of them together in two different engines. The Per=
matex was washed away from the rear main seal cap sides in both cases.<div>=
In fairness, in that application it takes a very long time to dry, and so i=
t may have not set completely before we ran the engine. But we never had th=
at issue until using the Driven synthetic oil. Which, BTW, seems to be real=
ly good stuff! &nbsp;Thanks to Ken Knight for &nbsp;the recommendation.</di=
v><div>We=E2=80=99ve switched to Permatex Anaerobic sealant and it works ve=
ry well. Much easier than soaked felt....</div><div>Phil Gott<br clear=3D"n=
one"><br clear=3D"none"><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"ydp6edb2764yiv6266475226yqt4161954403" id=3D"ydp6edb=
2764yiv6266475226yqtfd09427"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite">O=
n Feb 8, 2021, at 4:20 PM, Joe Boruch &lt;jaboruch@yahoo.com&gt; wrote:<br =
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ica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks David.&nbsp; Driven says that their oils sh=
ould not cause your issue, but they think you may have an issue with fuel d=
ilution.&nbsp; They did suggest not to use the Aviation Permatex, since it =
can be affected by <span><span style=3D"color:rgb(38, 40, 42);font-family:H=
elvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">aromatic solvents (which is w=
hat gasoline is)</span></span>.&nbsp; I looked at the instructions for Perm=
atex Indian Head gasket shellac and it does not say that it is affected by =
aromatic solvents.&nbsp; The instructions for Aviation Permatex say that is=
 affected by aromatic solvents.&nbsp; Looks like for my next build that I w=
ill go back to using Indian Head (if it has not been deemed to be un PC by =
then).&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Thanks for bringing this issue to light.&nbsp; Joe B.</div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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                    On Monday, February 8, 2021, 02:57:29 PM EST, David Got=
t &lt;triumphsix@yahoo.com&gt; wrote:
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Hi Joe,<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Here=E2=80=99s some pictures of t=
he felts in my engine after being washed clean by Driven XP3. &nbsp;You can=
 see the cement is washed out of the felts upon removal, and also the perma=
tex parted along the seam of the block/cap. &nbsp; Never happened before ru=
nning the oil. &nbsp;Hondabond held up just fine afterwards.</div><div><br =
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