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Time to look into a I-J Crank Scraper?
On Jun 15, 2021, at 5:38 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> =
wrote:
They did mention that there was room in both the pans for a long stroke =
rod without sitting in the pool of oil in the bottom of the pan. You are =
right, we don't have that issue at all. OTOH, I think we have a splash =
and splatter fest going on inside the TR4 blocks that far surpass =
anything in a more modern design.=20
Bob Kramer
On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 3:54 PM David Gott <triumphsix@yahoo.com =
Hi Bob,
Makes sense on the Chevy. I=E2=80=99d argue that the crank is so far =
above the oil level in the TR4 pan, that it probably doesn=E2=80=99t =
make a difference in this application, but I have no science to back up =
my wild claims!!
-Dave G
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On Tuesday, June 15, 2021, 4:48 PM, Bob Kramer <rkramer56@gmail.com =
I caught an episode of Engine Masters on the tube. They had a big block =
Chevy engine where they tested a Miloden and a Moroso oil pan. One of =
the pans was a cheap aftermarket with baffles. and the other a high tech =
job with a 2 part tank, extra width, engineering screens and the like. =
Neither had a crank scraper. They were able to gain HP by dropping the =
oil level to 5.5 quarts (no accusump). They played with the oil level to =
try and correct a drop in oil pressure that occured near peak power. =
Oil pressure dropped like a rock and they speculated it was foaming the =
oil. In the end the high tech pan versus the cheaper aftermarket pan =
added 27 HP if I remember correctly.=20
=20
Bob Kramer
On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 2:48 PM David Gott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net =
Hi Tim,
Not a problem at all; before installing an accusump, I would run mine =
1/2 quart over to ensure constant pressure. Autocrossing, I would =
notice pressure drops (split second) in the corners on occasion if I did =
not do this. You are in good shape!!
Dave Gott
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On Tuesday, June 15, 2021, 2:47 PM, Tim Murphy via Fot =
I overfilled the TR4=E2=80=99s sump by about a pint (1/4 inch on the dip =
stick). Is this critical or can I just run it and burn off the excess at =
the track? Thanks in advance for the advice.
=20
Anyone else going to Blackhawk this weekend?
=20
Tim Murphy
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Time =
to look into a I-J Crank Scraper?<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Jun 15, 2021, at 5:38 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot <<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">They did mention that there was room in both the =
pans for a long stroke rod without sitting in the pool of oil in the =
bottom of the pan. You are right, we don't have that issue at all. =
OTOH, I think we have a splash and splatter fest going on inside the TR4 =
blocks that far surpass anything in a =
more modern design. <br clear=3D"all" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" =
data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Bob =
Kramer</div></div></div><br class=3D""></div><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun =
15, 2021 at 3:54 PM David Gott <<a href=3D"mailto:triumphsix@yahoo.com"=
class=3D"">triumphsix@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"">
Hi Bob,<div class=3D"">Makes sense on the Chevy. I=E2=80=99d argue =
that the crank is so far above the oil level in the TR4 pan, that it =
probably doesn=E2=80=99t make a difference in this application, but I =
have no science to back up my wild claims!!</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">-Dave G<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><a href=3D"https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=3DiOS"; =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><p =
style=3D"font-size:15px;color:rgb(113,95,250);padding-top:15px;margin-top:=
0px" class=3D"">On Tuesday, June 15, 2021, 4:48 PM, Bob Kramer <<a =
href=3D"mailto:rkramer56@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">rkramer56@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p><blockquote =
class=3D""><div id=3D"gmail-m_6419092884898560334yiv4814382114" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">I caught an =
episode of Engine Masters on the tube. They had a big block Chevy =
engine where they tested a Miloden and a Moroso oil pan. One =
of the pans was a cheap aftermarket with baffles. and the other a =
high tech job with a 2 part tank, extra width, engineering screens and =
the like. Neither had a crank scraper. They were able to gain HP by =
dropping the oil level to 5.5 quarts (no accusump). They played with the =
oil level to try and correct a drop in oil pressure that occured near =
peak power. Oil pressure dropped like a rock and they =
speculated it was foaming the oil. In the end the high tech pan =
versus the cheaper aftermarket pan added 27 HP if I remember =
correctly. <div class=3D""> =20
<br clear=3D"all" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Bob Kramer</div></div></div><br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D""></div></div><br clear=3D"none" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div id=3D"gmail-m_6419092884898560334yiv4814382114yqt77871" =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 2:48 PM =
David Gott via Fot <<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" =
shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D""></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">
Hi Tim,<div class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Not a problem at all; before installing an accusump, I would =
run mine 1/2 quart over to ensure constant pressure. Autocrossing, =
I would notice pressure drops (split second) in the corners on =
occasion if I did not do this. You are in good shape!!</div><div =
class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Dave =
Gott<br clear=3D"none" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" class=3D""><br =
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style=3D"font-size:15px;color:rgb(113,95,250);padding-top:15px;margin-top:=
0px" class=3D"">On Tuesday, June 15, 2021, 2:47 PM, Tim Murphy via Fot =
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overfilled the TR4=E2=80=99s sump by about a pint (1/4 inch on the dip =
stick). Is this critical or can I just run it and burn off the excess at =
the track? Thanks in advance for the advice.</p><div class=3D""> =
<br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class=3D"">Anyone =
else going to Blackhawk this weekend?</p><div class=3D""> <br =
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